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originally posted in:Secular Sevens
7/30/2013 6:32:43 AM
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I believe that the two are wholly compatible. We do not yet understand the many secrets of the universe... at all, and some of the things we are only just beginning to unravel are absolutely mind boggling. Many strange findings that have been made, the beautiful universe we exist in that looks insanely chaotic at first glance but after further inspection appears to have a kind of clear order to things, I find it hard not to see some kind of intelligent design to things.
I can understand you not believing in a deity of some sort, but I don't really understand how you find that science and religion are incompatible or how faith in a deity will certainly compromise one's understanding of science or vice versa.
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[quote] I don't really understand how you find that science and religion are incompatible or how faith in a deity will certainly compromise one's understanding of science or vice versa.[/quote]I explained it quite clearly in the OP. The scientific method requires certain elements to be determine if something is true, exists, etc. Faith-based religion skips many of these steps, thus is not compatible with the scientific method. If you're going to assert, with any degree of certainty, that your deity exists [or is even the "right" one], then you have not followed the scientific method.
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Edited by tntbabin: 7/30/2013 8:47:44 AMThe thing about religion is it almost always has to do with what happens to us after death, at the moment, we cannot prove one way or the other, so one must choose to believe something exists after death(in some cases something specific), that nothing exists after death, or to believe neither, acknowledge both as possibilities, and take whichever you get. I don't see how choosing any of these would compromise one's ability to interpret scientific results or to use scientific method for research. Therefore I just don't see how the two are not compatible. I apologize for replying late, got busy. I also apologize if I don't reply immediately to any reply you may make to this post, as I'm going to try to sleep.
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Again, the scientific method isn't the same as science. It's a method, that much is clear. If science doesn't find an answer to a question, it doesn't violate the field to substitute the unknown with whatever you want. Granted believing in a deity doesn't abide by the scientific method, it still doesn't make it incompatible with science. For a long time people used to thing the atom was the smallest unit of matter, then came the electron, neutron, and proton. And then quarks. And then there was a point in chemistry in which people assumed an atom was real but had no proof (or technology) to determine that notion. What makes their leap of faith in atoms any different from anyone else's faith?
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Science isn't pretty stars and trees, it's a collection of methods for collecting and analysing empirical information.
