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originally posted in:Miholjanec 54Fe
Edited by hopla: 6/21/2013 5:21:17 AM
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POD/E3 2013: "The Crow"

Yay

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May-be

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Nay

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Game 7 is on, I'm not going to read this at all!

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Theory is rickety

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Too early to tell

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Don't take none too kindly to speculation, amigo

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A lot of people think this screenshot is just an indication of what an Awoken may look like or is a variant of an Awoken. This may be true but I can't help but wonder: is this "The Crow" briefly [url=http://rampancy.net/sites/rampancy.net/files/images/Destiny%20ViDoc%20-%20Pathways%20Out%20of%20Darkness%200307.preview.png]mentioned[/url] in the Pathways Out of Darkness ViDoc? The one we're supposed to "help loot the Acedemy archives" in order to "gain favor with the Queen[?]" Just at a glance, come on, right? He looks like "The Crow" would fit him well. If you'd like a history lesson then read the whole thing, if not skip to the bottom. Here's the theory: -(1) Look at his breastplate, at first glance it may appear to be two worn symbols; an upturned crimson triangle with a similar chevron below. Upon closer inspection we see the shapes actually have square notches cut out of them, take a gander, what do they look like to you?:[spoiler][quote]The top: an obvious avian resemblance, for some it may appear to be almost like the Bat Signal. The bottom is much more ambiguous and we'll get to it later.[/quote][/spoiler]- - (1a) These two symbols can be primarily interpreted as, among the the numerous associations, two feminine shapes. More importantly the triangular shape can be interpreted as a feminine version of the New Monarchy symbol, for now lets take the chevron for what it is; an indication of military service. -(2) Charlemagne had three sons who became kings, only one survived to become [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_the_Pious]ruler of the Franks[/url]. Take another look at the hypothetical Crow's breastplate, notice the two broken crimson stripes running along the sides and the two notches taken out of the chevron below the bird-triangle in the middle. With 2(4) stripes and a total of 6 notches taken out of the overall centerpiece shapes (in comparison to the three red capsules with one removed), the idea of duality is prominent. - - (2a) This could point to the idea that "The Crow" is an embodiment of Odin's ravens, [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huginn_and_Muninn]Huginn and Muninn[/url] (thought and memory), possibly the exiled Pippen and deceased infant twin brother of Louis, Lothair. (EDIT: dead end sentence zapped) -(3) Most of what is put forth in (1a) is from the most prominent theory in my mind that attempts to explain the connection between [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne#Charles_and_his_children]Charlemagne[/url] and "[url=http://destinypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Charlemagne]one of the great Warminds of the Golden Age[/url]." The idea is that the Factions/corporations of the Last City are like that of [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Assembly_(group)]the Assembly[/url] in the Halo Universe, certain aspects of Human expansion were controlled by a (secret) network of advanced AI. - - (3a) This would explain the possible connection of Charlemagne to New Monarchy and the triangles feminine allusion, a possible mark of the Queen, if you will. As we all know the New Monarchy symbol is a white triangle containing two red capsule shapes with a third catching the border of the triangle. This actually provokes the idea that the third is encapsulating all of the triangle itself. -(4) This all must return to the beginning, Charlemagne's concubine, Himiltrude, and second wife, Hildegard, were the only two to bear him sons. -Himiltrude bore him his hunchbacked eldest Pippin, she was eventually removed from the court. -Hildegard bore him Charles the Younger, Carloman, and twins Louis and Lothair (who died in infancy) [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_the_Pious#Emperor]Louis[/url] was the only to survive to become Holy Roman Emperor and legitimately rule the Franks. He was briefly deposed so that could be the origin of The Crow's question at [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXTXPe7JIUk&feature=player_detailpage#t=696s]11:36[/url]. But I think it more likely indicates whatever organization he belongs to represents the lineage of Charlemagne because the Queen is not referred to by name, rather by title. [b]TL;dr[/b] I think this [i]is[/i] "The Crow" and I think he will be a major character. This is my interpretation: -The bird-triangle represents the four out of five sons removed from Louis's path to make him king. -The chevron indicates the two removed that posed no real threat to Louis's ascension to the crown. -The broken stripes to the sides are symbolic of the two older brothers that died before their father did. -The third engulfing capsule of the New Monarchy symbol represents the son who inherited Charlemagne's empire, juxtaposed by the two capsules contained (ie Lothair/Pippen vs Charles/Carloman) EDIT: Fixed some links, grammar, and switched 2&2a with 3&3a for better readability.

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  • Edited by LugDubh: 6/21/2013 2:08:07 PM
    [quote]This is my interpretation: -The bird-triangle represents the four out of five sons removed from Louis's path to make him king. -The chevron indicates the two removed that posed no real threat to Louis's ascension to the crown. -The broken stripes to the sides are symbolic of the two older brothers that died before their father did. -The third engulfing capsule of the New Monarchy symbol represents the son who inherited Charlemagne's empire, juxtaposed by the two capsules contained (ie Lothair/Pippen vs Charles/Carloman)[/quote] Nicely articulated overall but your inclusion of [i]Huginn and Muninn[/i] needs further elucidation. Their pertinence to the argument isn't apparent, and only serves to open an avenue that does little in support of your conclusion outside of the unnecessary pagan [i]Germanic[/i] historical context which transitioned into first, the Merovingian kingdom of the Franks and later, the Carolingian one. Other than that I'd say your'e definitely onto something, I like and agree. Edit; for clarification.

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