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Edited by CrazzySnipe55:
3/11/2013 7:43:38 PM
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Corporal Punishment is Lazy Parenting
Spanking, beating, belting, smacking, and any other sort of physical abuse towards kids of any age is lazy parenting. Anyone who does this is a coward and a lazy asshole who isn't fit to be a parent. If you can't find a better way of dealing with a child's actions than beating them then you need to reassess your own character rather than taking it out on another person.
I was the whiniest little bitch of a kid up until the age of like 12, was never spanked even once, and am now a perfectly well-functioning, smart, outgoing 17-year-old with no noticeable traces of the kid I used to be.
What do you guys think? Do you think Corporal Punishment is okay? If so, why? If not, why not?
e: [quote]Beating/spanking both [url=http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/247333.php]can cause mental illness[/url] and [url=http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1983895,00.html]can create aggressive behavioral issues[/url], or at least make a child more prone to both.[/quote]
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It can go both ways. There kids who got whooped and became rapists and killers. There are kids who got spanked and are great people. There are kids who never got hit and are terrible people. There are kids who never got hit and are great people.
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3 RepliesI had my ass beat as a kid and I turned out fine. All that shit you linked is a bunch of liberal hippie bullshit.
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4 RepliesEdited by Verbatim: 3/11/2013 6:47:10 PMI find it funny how the rationale for, say, the taboo of men hitting women is that "female is the weaker sex", and that "men are biologically stronger than women". You know who ELSE we are biologically stronger than? Starts with a "C".
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Blanket statements like this are terrible. It's not the best method and shouldn't be a go-to punishment but it shouldn't be completely done away with, either.
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some kids don't respond to normal discipline, have you not attended school?
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Are you kidding me? The only reason why you (or any other child) would oppose corporal punishment is because it hurts. If it's not obvious enough, we live in such a passive society that we allow our children to become the swag-fags that are ruining whatever hope we have in this next generation. Do parents need to beat their children to teach them a lesson? Absolutely not. Should corporal punishment ever be considered the first option? No. But is it a solution that works out much better than other forms of passive discipline? Abso--blam!-ing-lutely.
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I'm not sure you understand this, but you are an individual, and there's few connections you can to make to every child's development with your own. I'm not advocating over excessive violence but a spank or a slap to keep a child in line if they get [i]far[/i] out of it is not profound.
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1 ReplyNice fallacy there, OP.
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3 RepliesEdited by xlegitxprox420x: 3/11/2013 8:17:15 PMThe problem with these studies is they don't differentiate between typical physical punishment and straight-up abuse, considering them the same thing when they really aren't. Slapping someone's butt is not close to being the same as beating them or whipping them with a leather belt.
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17 RepliesOh look, a teenager thinks he knows everything about something. What a shock. Tell us how to end poverty and war, while you're at it. Do hurry, before you turn 20 and forget it all.
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2 RepliesAm I the only one who sometimes confuses corporal and capital punishment?
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Eh, I think it all depends on the kid.
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2 RepliesI was spanked, and I feel it made me a better person.
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3 RepliesEdited by CraigWCK: 3/11/2013 1:32:00 PM"Brings up one example" This proves spanking is terrible, and not spanking is best! Mate, for both examples there are billions of examples of positive and negative outcomes. Neither method will ever be proved as the best one, in the end it all comes down to the child and the parent, and how they choose to raise the child.
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17 RepliesNothing is wrong with a little physical punishment for children. Hell, I was spanked when I was little and when I was in my teens I was choked or smacked by a belt. Once they are 13 and realize that they can walk all over you without any consequences, you're screwed for the next 5 years as parents.
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Edited by Prototape: 3/11/2013 7:03:34 PMMy parents used spanking on me as a kid, then later realized how pointless it is in comparison to the dread of having to keep my nose on the wall for an hour or so. If I could have chosen between the two, I would have totally taken the former. Spanking is over within seconds, but standing for an hour with nothing to do except think about why you're there and the mistake you made to get into that situation is a lot worse. Corporal Punishment is ineffective in the fact that it doesn't force them to think.
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12 RepliesI am all against parents beating their kids, but some times they may need a spank.
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4 RepliesYou know, I was beat when I was a child. Over a lot of stupid reasons (not reading to my little sister). I'm thankful that my mom beat the living shit out of me at times. I was never a bad child. Always had good grades, never really disobeyed. My parents were strict with things, however it did make me into the person I am today. I am not fully supportive of corporal punishment, but there are times where it may be needed. Do I want to resort to that with my future children? No. However, I see the way that kids are today, and I facepalm about how they respect elders and people in general, and I definitely want to relate that to parents who are too lazy to actually punish their kids. Children having children is worse, and people who don't pay attention to their children because they are too immature to do so are worse. So, there are a lot of other things to be talked about on the subject of parenting rather than just corporal punishment. It's a fraction of what is wrong / right. There should always be other things that are done rather than just that one thing.
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As a parent all I'll say is, the threat of a paddle is a great deterrent to a child's thought process of improper behavior. In my era, corporal punishment (or the fear of) in school was one thing that kept kids in line as opposed to how my sons have described how kids act in school today. If you had to get spanked by the principal it was known by the entire school. No one wanted that vilification hanging over their head. My sons are two of the best mannered people I know. I only had to paddle each of them one time, ever. There is a huge difference in discipline and abuse. Any time the one doing the discipline hits repeatedly or anywhere besides the bottom, or with anything besides a paddle (bread boards work ideally for this) (no belts, switches, anything thinner than a ruler). Not all kids require the same amount of discipline. Some are respectful enough that they do not do the things that would invoke correction. Others seem to go out of their way to get attention, albeit negative attention, simply for attention sake. Any time you have to resort to paddling repeatedly, the child is obviously not getting it, or does not care, so it is time to find another means of discipline.
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Edited by Gaara444: 3/11/2013 3:16:34 PMI'm a perfectly functioning , smart, out going, 18 year old with no noticeable traces of how much of an ass hole I was when I was a kid, and I was spanked for bad behavior. It should only be used as a last resort. My parents tried raising their voice at me, it didn't work. They tried yelling at me, it didn't work. They tried taking my toys away, it didn't work. Being spanked told me in a very real way that the behavior I was displaying was to come to an immediate stop. You can't say things like "it's bad parenting" until you're in the shoes of a parent and are actually raising a child, cause it's Hell on Earth. EDIT: I would also like to ask, are you a parent? You're 17 so I'm going to assume not. Come back in 25 years after you had raised a infant into an adult and tell me that again. If you were never spanked, how could you know you would be worse off if you were? I was, and I'm perfectly fine and healthy. Don't generalize, it doesn't help your argument.
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Edited by Comet: 3/11/2013 8:55:39 PMI was spanked as a kid. I'm doing ok.
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Edited by The Dark Hadou: 3/11/2013 3:58:41 PMAlthough I agree I still feel that a lot of today's youth could do with a slap every now and again seeing as how they mostly seem to be proper little assholes who act in a way that we wouldn't have dreamt of doing when I was a kid. Maybe I'm just getting old though...
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Physical punishment is a good short term solution, but a very poor long term solution.
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What about fatal beatings?
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5 RepliesCapital punishment is best punishment.
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2 RepliesEdited by Kickimanjaro: 3/11/2013 8:39:24 AMHey! I was a whiny bitch when I was younger too, now I'm not. I think when we finally realize that our actions have consequence we become better people not for others necessarily, but for ourselves. I was also thrown into a kind of leadership situation which made me realize, perhaps more quickly than others, that the people around us respond to how we act. The impact I had was only recently explained, and I was not as aware of it at the time, but what I learned was that people emulate those they admire and this can go a long way. It is similar to education, I do not believe we ever truly learn something unless we have the desire to learn it, so too we many never truly be good people until we desire goodness in ourselves. Or I'm high. Point being, I do not believe in it and, if I become a parent, I will not use such methods. That said, I'm not going to go out of my way to tell others how to raise their kids.
