[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Eire Raven OGO, you really think it's like that?[/quote]OGO ... what is OGO, [url=http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ogo]going with definition #1 for the mo[/url] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Eire Raven HBS can't be a one trick pony, if they live & die only if 4+ chapters make it to iTunes then they were pretty desperate to begin with. Bungie may own Crimson but HBS should have other games in the works.[/quote]And indeed HBS do, have release mny before and a number since ... but none through bungie. What does that say about the relationship? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Eire Raven I know you're being sarcastic, but your point still seems to be that HBS is an innocent maiden & Bungie is some nefarious villain in all this... Unless HBS has revealed more to you than is on these forums then it seems to me your making this more black & white than it likely is.[/quote]Only that it is not a great way to start a relationship. If you read bungies self promoting press release, crimson was started to help startup indie developers. Yet, in 2 years they have helped how many? And when you set out to support a group, do you just pull support (yet, continue to promote yourself via your web site)? Its a bit shallow to pretend to be [i]helping the poor indie developers[/i], yet in reality doing nothing.