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Edited by Squirt Lagurski:
1/3/2021 4:46:10 AM
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Why is Gear from the Moon & Dreaming City Sunset?
I am not one of those people who hate sun-setting but I think it is ridiculous to sunset gear that you can still earn. Shadowkeep was only released a year ago and we are still able to earn everything from that release but the gear is sunset?? Makes no sense to increase the difficulty of Nightmare Hunts but sunset the armor you use to do them. Please fix this Bungie, allow gear from Shadowkeep/Moon to be max leveled or get rid of the destination.
**Edit 1: I didn’t realize dreaming city stuff was sunset as well. If it is in the game and can be earned it should NOT be sunset. How can Bungie possibly justify increasing the difficulty of destination activities but sunset the gear on those destinations? This leads to a terrible player experience for ppl who are new to the game. What a turn off it would be to buy Shadowkeep and than realize all legendary gear you earn from it is worthless. Same goes for Dreaming City activities.
**Edit 2: Bungie owes us an explanation on the criteria for sunset. The only thing I can recall is Luke Smith saying something about making ppl give up on weapons like Breakneck to try the new stuff. This doesn’t make any sense because they kept gear that is three years old but sunset others that are only a year old. I’m sorry I love Bungie but it is ridiculous to Sunset gear that you currently can earn in the game. This was a bad decision it’s OK to admit that if it makes the game better Luke. Get over your ego and fix this. I’m not talking about content that has been removed, I am referring to gear that is currently obtainable in game. Either get rid of the gear completely or make it max level.
@cozmo23 and @dmg04 please address this with the team.
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I don't really mind about the sunset of the weapons but I kind of wanna finish the bounties, so I can't figure nd the 2 last enemies to finish my essences of wrath or madness, are those also sunsets or they went to other place in the moon?
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You can literally buy content that is meaningless and can't be used in the larger game, this is called a (insert your own word) scheme.
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I think it's time we all come to the realization a video game loot pool spanning multiple years is simply not sustainable. Nothing about this game is sustainable. When it is over we will be getting 1, MAYBE 2 seasons for gear, thus making it rented. This making chasing it pointless. Time to move on, folks. This game will never be what you, I or most of the community thought it would be. I think of how long I spent acquiring full sets of Leviathan, EoW, SoS, SotP and CoS gear, only to see it all go away. Same with menagerie. Same with forges. Why even have a vault at this point?
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1 ReplyIt’s for balancing purposes why don’t y’all understand that
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Because Luke Smith is in charge of Bungie.
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1 ReplyFunny how the devs make decisions to try and invite new players in yet manage to make current players and vets want to get out. It’s always been an issue over upper management’s hand forcing shitty designs that the community hates and doesn’t want. They leads’ ought to take the blame.
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4 RepliesWhy is anything sunset?
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Incompetent management.
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Right dude big facepalm
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At the very least, update the LL of the gear earned from Shattered Throne and Pit of Heresy. If (because they're the same) you have to update the world pool too, then fine. No reason to not let players play more than 2 destinations (Earth/Europa) more than a month after the expansion premieres.
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Edited by goldy411: 12/23/2020 10:39:57 PMYeah, new players don’t get upgradable end game loot and old players don’t go back for god rolls. Other than raids, feels like Bungie is pushing us away from older content that is still in the game.
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The Shadowkeep gear/weapons, specifically GoS, being sunset blew my mind. No raid gear/weapons should be sunset. This is end game content that we worked for. They won't sunset random drop, mostly worthless exotics that have been around forever though. Genius Dumbgie
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They won't. They have mistaken endless grind as engaging gameplay.
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You must be late to the party, yeah a lot of stuff is as bungie put it past it’s sale by date
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245 RepliesBecause the gear from The Dreaming City is from Year 2 of the game. The gear from The Moon is from Year 3. So while one can argue that the loot pools should have been refreshed (once a century pandemic, working from home), the gear was[b] appropriately[/b] sunset. No other loot game would still let you take gear from TWO expansions in the past, and then LEVEL IT UP to be relevant for current content. That is GAME-BREAKING, and Bungie finally was forced to admit that it was, and stop allowing us to do it.
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8 RepliesEdited by WulfPak666: 12/22/2020 11:43:01 PMI thoroughly enjoy the people who say they needed to sunset the gear because it was problematic and encouraged power creep. Guess that's why we have Stasis, which literally breaks whole encounters in the game including raids, strikes, gambit and pvp. Arguably better than all the light based subclasses in pvp as well. The most powerful sword in the entire game right now and a grenade launcher that breaks the game more than the old God King Telesto. All the power creep weapons got sliced down. No more recluse, NF, Moutain Top etc... Not to mention most of the end game meta defining weapons are exotic, which none have been sunset. What about solving the "power creep" issue?
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4 RepliesI get sunsetting, but Moon gear went way too quick. Shotty, sniper & pulse were faves of mine. Also, Altars of Sorrow is still fun. Jus a pity the weapons are useless.
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Why isn’t moon and dreaming city armour no good. If you don’t want it remove it like you did with sunsetting which I felt was crap
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Edited by Olórin: 12/23/2020 4:44:32 AMSo they can make room for when they enforce old content from 2014 upon you.
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1 ReplyShouldn’t they be... [spoiler]Moonset[/spoiler] [spoiler]Ill leave now 😆[/spoiler]
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Edited by Yosemite Sam: 12/22/2020 1:51:27 PM[quote]Why is Gear from the Moon & Dreaming City Sunset?[/quote] Because they would have had to actually work, you know, do their job with the new light system. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all the planets free to explore? this means they would have had to work around the new light players and us. Can't have any of that when we have the shop and seasonal content to make our money instead of creating a game that sells itself. Edit: For those that are saying things like "They aren't doing it because they've (finally) realized that doing it isn't good for the game" ROI, Age of triumph 3 years later into the game updating existing content would love to speak to you 👍
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It’s kinda like buying forsaken and wondering why the redwar gear has static rolls.
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I never understood why anything post shadowkeep was getting sunset. Sure sunset year 1 weapons, and certain pinnacles, and anything that’s just too outdated, but to basically cap gear that’s still recent is kinda of a let down.
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1 ReplyNah bro -blam!- sunsetting in general lol. That shit sucks. I'm still in absolute shock that Bungie is straight up just removing content. Wild.
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Edited by Noble 6: 12/23/2020 2:42:43 PMI had to literally belly-laugh for like a solid minute after I read the blog entry about rewards they published some time ago. Not a SINGLE word on the gear from old expansions being sunset. That's just how it is, deal with it. I mean holy shit, Bungie knows they can get away with anything now. They can still sell DLC with most of the gear being useless and not put a word about that onto the storefront. And it's just "fine". The Steam reviews are a complete dumpster fire, but it's just "fine". Exotics and old beloved supers will be next btw., because they know they can do anything now and just get away with it, because people LET them get away with it. Good job Bungie Defence Force, you really did it! If the game ever gets so bad even you take notice and then question how it could ever get this far, just take a look in the mirror.
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Edited by AubsTheBelieber: 12/23/2020 1:12:59 PMYou would think taking away so many planets, pvp maps, and strikes, they wouldn't make half of the few planets left (Dreaming City, Tangled Shore, and Moon) have useless drops. They sunset everything else, why is the little left in the game not at least dropping old loot and new caps? And Forsaken and Shadowkeep are still for sale. I would be so mad if I bought the past DLCs just to have all the loot be sunset.
