You use eloquent bait. Lots of fish biting. Good job! Need to use those writing skills for a better cause than to upset people in a video game forum. Talent wasted my good man.

Hey, the 5 jobs and ten kids are fine, however calling me ugly, well that’s just rude... lol

You're trolling... right? You can't be serious. For 26 hours people tried to solve it. There was a concern for streamers who were at it all that time suffering sleep deprivation and exhaustion. That's been known to cause heart attacks and some streamers aren't in top physical condition. Unlocking the door was absurdity moronic anyway since there's no ceilings to the forge- it's open to the sky! We all have ships so we could access it from above! Dumb.

Look after explaining it so many times I'm just going to put it this way. This is just general speak so just follow me. Everyone has a capacity to ask for help. Everyone has the capacity to get teams together. Everyone has a capacity to find patterns I hope. I everyone has the capacity to go online and check if anyone else has figured something out. If no one has made any good progress then it is what it is. My main problem is when people bitching moaning about it instead of just trying to figure it out. if the puzzles poorly designed after you figured it out then it's poorly designed I don't know what to tell you. it's kind of like a door right? If you don't have the right key to open up the lock that's like saying the door is stupid the door is broken the door is poorly designed. [i]that's not true[/i] Now if you open the door and it didn't open properly then you can say OK the door is poorly designed. that is fine because you've tried it and you've opened it. I'd rather people in the forms not sound like a raging lunatic and just collaborate and don't even complain until everybody's figured it out and then you talk about it. my projection is more ideal then some and it may not be based in reality because you do see how people react. I mean look at how you first responded to me. I'm not calling you crazy but I believe that that is what is to be expected when I tell people hey chill out we can get it done let's work together you can do it.

Enjoy your isolation. The majority of the community and some of the streamers themselves disagree with you. https://youtu.be/Hb_9oObp1To The streamers themselves think it's a pile of shit. But you like the idea... Good for you. 👍

Don't get me wrong with what I say but sometimes the smartest people are alone and feel isolated. like I gave you a perfectly logical explanation about a puzzle that you clearly don't agree with. I do puzzles a lot and it's just like the old saying goes you can't judge a book by its cover. if you're going to want yourself together with other people saying that you all don't agree then hey man you do you but I'm going to tell you right now I'd rather understand this and have the wisdom then to sit there and listen to everybody else and say that they don't like it and jumping on the bandwagon. Puzzles are what they are and they have Solutions. They're designed to be done in a specific way and once you solved it you can say whether or not you liked it. but again if you don't agree you don't agree I'm just making sure that I don't sound like a raging lunatic and act disrespectful to people who are clearly coming to me and [i]wanting[/i] to talk about it. telling me to enjoy my isolation is not a threat at any level in fact all it does is confirm that ignorance is always going to be around and I'm always going to be there to be who I am and explain it the way I do whether you guys like it or not. I'll even throw you another bone. when super Mario Brothers Wii u came out everyone at IGN said it was a really hard game and that it's hard to beat it. The main reporter for the article said that he only did half of the game in small text all the way at the bottom of the page. People take announcers streamers and reporters as an authority figure in use their opinion to form theirs. That's not how I live. I believe you sent me some sort of link that shared in your opinion about the puzzle? It's all going to be ignorance until it's done. The Rubik's cube wasn't solved in a day. it took people to get together to get it done and the fact that bungie made a brainbuster for the community is something I would praise them for. It's about time you all experience something that you couldn't face roll. Again I'm not trying to disrespect you or anybody. You do you you play how you play. Enjoy the game

It's a failure. One more bad decision out of many bad decisions Bungie has made. You want to encourage them to continue making bad decisions then go right ahead.

I feel like you don't care with what I was saying so I don't know where we're going with this conversation so I'm just going to say [i] deuces[/i] dude. You do you

Why should I care when you get on these forums to insult others. You are obviously doing you- and it's not pretty.

And here you are answering your own problem if you honestly don't care I don't know why you're talking to me. Deuces

I'm sure you solved the puzzle the day it came out! [spoiler]oh wait, no you didn't[/spoiler] [spoiler]bleat bungie sheep, bleat[/spoiler]

I didn't. Im off on weekends. Sorry to disappoint but I have bills and need to make money. I don'tunderstand why you're trying to discredit what I have to say like you got some underhanded point or something. no one solved it and everyone here that was complaining about not being able to solve it could have tried and collaborated but instead decided to get the pitchforks and tar and fire again and act like they're going to go to war. Nice try.

Ah, well I'm glad you have the experience to tell everyone else that all they gotta do is try, be part of the effort, and keep trucking! [spoiler]I swear, you're the type of guy to recommend how I can make a better looking asset in my game when you've never made one yourself[/spoiler]

you know that's like saying that since I'm not a helicopter pilot I don't have the qualifications to tell a helicopter pilot that he messed up due to the fact that he flew into a tree. That's like saying since I'm not a fireman I can't tell you that you poorly put out a fire when you clearly have embers I need "experience" to tell people to play the game that they bought and collaborate with people to exchange ideas and solve the problem? where is your weird sense of authority coming from in this argument because you make no sense I should be able to discuss achieve middle ground here. with your logic no one can talk to anyone about anything because they lack the skills as you put it. I guess I need to go to school to be a class a jackass like you before I'll be able to talk to you huh?

You don't need to have the "experience" of the puzzle to say "it can't be that hard" But don't tell people that they're just not participating and that's their problem when you haven't even tried it. How do you know that the problem is just "you need to participate"

[quote]Ah, well I'm glad you have the [b][i][u]experience[/u][/i][/b]to tell everyone else that all they gotta do is try, be part of the effort, and keep trucking![/quote] Yeah no you're not getting away with this one. fall on your sword and admit that you're trying to argue authority and that it's not going to get anywhere here. you want to talk about my verbage that's one thing but don't tell me that I lack experience to tell people to keep going and cheer them on and be a more optimistic because you feel that I didn't even get it done I don't need to get it done to be able to say hey good luck you got it. Like I said fall on your sword. as to why I couldn't do it it's none of your damn business okay? I'll make time to play the game when I damn well please but I'm not going to sit here on the forms and complain that I have no time about anything and complain that I'll never get it done because that's not what I do. Whatever high horse you rode on? go kick rocks.

I don't care if you can't do it, I just hate people like you who say "ohh you're doing it all wrong" without knowing anything about what the person is doing at all or even what the person has tried. It's not a "us" problem, it was another bungie problem. Which is why they rolled it back, they knew THEY were the problem

Bro what I believe is that you took me for the wrong kind of person okay? being able to tell the community hey let's work together let's collaborate let's figure this out we can do this is not something for you to bash. What I criticized is when people get onto just complain. Don't give me the everyone's entitled to their opinion nonsense because that's not what we're talkin about here. I am talking about the ability to change your verbiage and alter your attitude. how hard was it for everybody today and yesterday to make a post asking for help on getting this puzzle done? astronomically difficult is the answer because people would rather piss and moan then to actually ask for help therefore propagating the toxicity that is the community. I stamp out toxicity. I hate toxicity. I would rather you change your verbiage and alter your attitude breathe calm down and just say that you need help. I don't need experience to be able to tell you these things are for them because that is just asinine. I don't even care if I'm not the popular opinion because the truth stick is never the popular opinion. All it does is make everyone feel invalidated because they want butt rubs or high-five for feeling mad. Everyone wants to feel validated and I get that but the issue is like in real life. Do you go to work pissed off because you hate your co-worker and tell all the customers and all the other co-workers all the smack talk and create a negative environment or do you find a way to get along and work together? That is the forums everyday and if that doesn't bother you then that is a problem and you should do your best to actually try to stamp out the toxicity. Player input [i] is player input[/i]. I come off as Stern and uncaring and cold in a lot of these posts because I don't care for how mad somebody is. What I care about is [i] how they're going to contribute to the solution[/i]. too many people complain with no answers don't even ask for answers and continually Bash one another because they don't know how to communicate. That is why you came off at me the way you did. Pro tip, don't ever argue authority with people in life ever because you're going to get smackdown by somebody who actually knows how to argue and it's just going to shoot down your whole train of thought bruh. I can easily go into the puzzle for 5 minutes and turn around and tell people they can get it done and then we're all going to feel silly because I wasted time when I could have just spent my 5 minutes giving tips on perhaps survivability or finding a puzzle or perhaps giving research that I may have found out somewhere. TL:DR read what I wrote. PS also you don't care if I did it? [quote]I'm sure you solved the puzzle the day it came out! [spoiler]oh wait, no you didn't[/spoiler] [spoiler]bleat bungie sheep, bleat[/spoiler][/quote] Yet you tried to make fun of my progress. [i]but you don't care right[/i]? When you're too busy trolling you sound like a child. Bruh...styling on you like a fiend man. Fall on your sword.

[quote]Pro tip, don't ever argue authority with people in life ever because you're going to get smackdown by somebody actually knows how to argue and it's just going to shoot down your whole train of thought bruh[/quote] Pro tip, don't condescend to people like you're their father, great way of being labelled an asshole and losing all your friends Anyway, the problem is, you couldn't ask for help, [i] because nobody knew how to do it because it was a wild goose chase around irrelevant things to figure out how to play the content we were promised[/i] Which is why people were mad, the entire community bands together and after almost 2 days can't figure it out because of how it was stupidly designed

You see? You're trying to win points when that whole shpiel whooped you. Guess what? There is a level of respect that you [i]must[/i] give when posting on the forums. Imagine coming into my house ranting and raving like a lunatic. I'm going to actually be annoyed and talk to you with that tone. that's going to happen and if you don't like it too bad I don't care what I sound like I don't care how you feel about how I sound like. Go straight up admit that I can be an a****** but that is not my point. My point is is that I go straight to the point and ask you and what are you going to do about it? Only bothers you? You don't need to play it! grow up because people are going to talk to you like that all the time! if you're worrying about how someone is talking to you [i]alter[/i] your verbage and your attitude. Remember you came off as a jackass trying to make fun of me on my progress and I responded in kind because that's a level of respect you gave me. You want to get checkmated again? Go for it bruh. no one has information on the puzzle by the way? well I'm sure people who spent a good amount of time probably have a sense of a pattern and that they can still discuss and you still can't communicate for help because maybe you'll find someone who can find the answer faster than you. Stop whining and stop making excuses. I realize that even the Rubik's cube wasn't done the first day but it was done and people have collaborated on it in order to get it done.

I'm talking about a shitty puzzle in a game you're talking about some goofy shit about how you're mature or something. I don't give a shit who you are, the puzzle sucks ass