I agree. Just knowing that doing that hardest content in the game will net you the same item you could get from just playing the crucible or some public events (other than aesthetics) kinda weakens the drive. But that's why I don't think it matters one way or another how long you have to grind for tokens, as it only gets you the same thing as any other activity (other than aesthetics). *EDIT* Also yes, we played the crapload out of VoG for the challenge and the gear.