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10/22/2017 2:58:25 PM
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“c. Some people want status symbols.. and this game isn't providing them. Seasons will bring some, but they will only be cosmetic. The days of this game locking game-breakingly powerful gear behind inaccessible content are over. Bungie wised up and realized that this is really bad game design for any game with competitive play.” Well I hope you’re right. My experience with life is that everyone is competitive in some shape or form. Nearly all games are competitive, video games, football games, the Olympic Games, esports, there are winners and losers, that’s life. Who would bother competing for a gold medal if everyone got one? This whole make things easy for everyone and everyone wins thing is completely flawed it’s against human nature, the only people for it are surprisingly the people who don’t like to try too hard or the parent who feels sorry for their little Timmy because he came last in a race at school. I don’t like pvp, why? because I’m bad at it and I don’t like losing, but I used to say to myself and others that I’m just not competitive but deep down I knew I was. I think one day you will understand this if you don’t already deep down. There no reason to play this game yes it’s gun play is fun but that alone won’t keep people interested the same as cosmetics won’t. They’ve screwed this up and they know it.
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  • Not that cut and dried. People have competitive sides and cooperative sides to their personalities. How much of each you have and which side dominates, is individual Because of my past in sports I can pretty much turn my competitive side on and off at will. Unless I'm in a setting that is extremely competitive (like Trials) where it will simply get triggered. In most settings my cooperative side is dominant. We have need for both, but the key is understanding which side is best for a given situation, and to temper it to the situation. Frankly I think Bungie is taking the right approach here. Many of the things they did in Destiny caused such problems that they've had to reboot the game [i]twice[/i] now simply to get rid of them. Nice to see they aren't continuing to do the same things yet expecting a different outcome.

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  • “Because of my past in sports I can pretty much turn my competitive side on and off at will. Unless I'm in a setting that is extremely competitive (like Trials) where it will simply get triggered. In most settings my cooperative side is dominant.” At least you admit you’re competitive. Most people can turn it on and off at will that’s not the issue, this issue is are people gracious in defeat and have dignity in victory? The problem with video games is like anything with the internet people are faceless and younger people have no discipline or self control hence tea bagging, verbal abuse or crying on the forums that nothing is fair. I much prefer my coop side but I also see the need for competition and people’s desire for cool, rare or exclusive stuff, it’s in every aspect of life. Bungie have taken this game too far one way, destiny was a huge success, destiny 2 is a shadow of its former self. Certain cosmetic items like shaders are rubbish, I would say 60% either make very little difference to the standard colour or they just look the same as another shader, then there’s auras, they look daft in my opinion, some of the armour is good but most people want some functionality with it like perks after all we are space wizards with magic powers, gaming is all about immersion and most people don’t want to be the same as the person standing next to them they want to feel unique and badass because this is fantasy, which is where destiny 2 falls flat on its face. I understand that you feel strongly about this but so do i. The only thing I can think as to why they’ve done this is that it’s some kind of social experiment, designed exclusively for the casual player, the player who wants everything without having to put much effort into it. Time will tell, it’s not just about bungie there are big financial investors watching what’s happening with their money and if bungie can’t regain or retain its player base they will be facing some pretty bad consequences. The employees at bungie are intelligent and highly motivated people who have put their lives on hold and who’s families are depending on their paycheque, this is why I don’t understand why they took such a big risk with a product that had already proven to be successful. From a business point of view it makes no sense to me. Part of me thinks something really stinks about all this.

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