The issue is the sand box team is retarded and created a ripple effect of nerfs. You nerf shotguns so now you have to nerf hungering blade You nerf shotguns and nerf hand cannons again so they don't destroy shotgunners at a range You nerf shotguns ammo spread ADS etc. to make primaries stronger again but primaries still suck so people will swap to regen weapons Then they'll nerf regen weapons etc etc. This game is unplayable because of how slow it is and now I'm happy I quit playing. So many damn nerfs lmao. The buffs are so minuscule they don't even count as buffs. It's like overwatch You nerf a DPS character then you make characters who increase damage stronger Then you have to nerf them because they're basically needed to make up for lost damage. Nerfing solves nothing as shown by these dumbasses.