its a great raid indeed! the boss battles are cool and the jumping puzzles are hilarious! the loot is good too, but people are STILL too hung up on elemental primaries, and so they'll sheepishly declare the KF guns poop, despite cocoon being an amazing perk! and functionally, the raid is great because it has less "hero" roles, which means less "open" slots for carrying. see, in VoG, you could have two to four people carrying everybody else through. CE is solo-able so a single person could carry 5 through. but in KF, you have NO leeway at totems (everybody cycles through eveyr role), warpriest might have about 3 easy roles. golgoroth has about 4. but after that it quickly drops to about 2 easy roles at sisters, and barely ONE "easy" role on Oryx (both of which are the "floor" positions. but on oryx its still an important one because you have the responsiility of Ogres). in my opinion, KF>VoG.