Disclaimer- this is not an attention seeking post. I post this in hopes that my feedback gets seen and is considered by Bungie, because my opinions are shared. There are people leaving this game. Here are my reasons. I already know I have a 0.0101010101 chance of this post being considered, but it's for the record.
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This is [b]FEEDBACK[/b] for you People that don't know what it is here is the definition:
Feedback- helpful information or criticism that is given to someone to say what can be done to improve a performance, product, etc.
Here's the reasons why I switched from Destiny to Battlefield 1. I've never been lagging or DDOSing cause of the dedicated servers. Also, with smooth gameplay and true gun skill- it's a game with a skill gap. Btw, they don't nerf anything. To add to this, snipers can be spotted and taken out- yet when a skilled sniper comes along, all credits due. Shotguns in battlefield would make Destiny players cry nerf all the time- oh no, a shotgun that fires at its true range. To add to this, the graphics are amazing- maps are huge for multiple styles of play. And oh -- 38 vs 38! A true war! Destiny lost me after their recent update. They made sure 390-400 will be even more struggle as if there wasn't one already. They capped factions- making patrols, bounties, and strikes useless. Also, the micro transactions are ridiculous. I'm done with Destiny- I'm not getting Destiny 2 considering they will break their promise that "Your guardian will always be with you- 10 year plan" has been scrapped to feed the streamers and PC crowd- ignoring their dedicated players. They want to throw away our 3 years of gaming away. Bungie with Activision has proven money is more important than a quality game. Still no dedicated servers, stupid graphics, and terrible gameplay. To add to this- people get banned so easily for name calling and public shaming of cheaters- BUT OH the cheaters and elitist streamers who love to belittle others don't get any warning. They get to continue, and BUNGIE LISTENS TO THEM because they give free publicity. How cheap. They only listen to streamers!
But you can get 400 drops!
But where can I get 400 drops outside the raid and doing 5 hours of strikes? Oh and trials bounties drop 390 gear. It's all capped. I believe since they did that, they should also cap crucible drops (as crucible isn't end game except Trials). There's no legit reason to cap vanguard and crucible rep and faction drops at 390. Also the exotics I've farmed recently are decrypting at my light or below, making that stupid -blam!- to grind. Archons forge helped, but only with the ghost and artifact. The ARMOR and weapon drops only go up to 385. I already have good rolls on rep guns I like- so seriously no reason to rank up anything anymore for me- unless they get rid of the cap. Don't get me started with "use LFG to find a raid group" because 1) When I find a group and I don't have the hard mode emblem, I'm kicked. 2) When I make a group, and it doesn't go the way they wanted it (30 minutes or less lol) they quit mid raid and it starts a chain of quitting. So LFG is out of the question for me. Trials? I love it, I just don't wanna sweat like yah forever on the weekend. Destiny ripped 3/4ths of the methods to level up and are forcing us to pay streamers for flawless, pay streamers for DDOS
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/216956815/0/0 -Credits to UltraNoah
(it's a known issue), pay sherpas to help with the raid. Literally no reason to keep a solo player. To add to this, they nerf everything that becomes useful.
Btw, my skeleton key drop rate for 1 week now is 1/30 strikes. Exotic drop rate for 1 week now is 1/25 3oC. Not worth my time anymore cause Bungivision wants money and doesn't want us to "make our own destiny."
Edit 1:
Wow trending. I'm happy I made points we can agree on! Thanks for the support from 90% of you, to the 10% that wants to take a stab at me- do your best. I get really into logical arguments with you. I like to dissect your immaturity word for word.
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To the people who think that this is still an attention seeking post- well every post in the FEEDBACK forum must be... your logic is flawed. I'm stating my last criticisms before I go.
Edit 3
In regards to paying for DDOS
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/5a6420/there_are_people_offering_paid_ddos_trials/?client=safari
In regards to the massive complaints about the DDOS and connection issues
https://www.google.com/amp/stevivor.com/2016/10/destinys-trials-osiris-guardians-take-reddit-complain-ddos-spamming-shady-tactics/amp/?client=safari
In regards to how destiny doesn't care if people leave- think again
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/02/03/report-bungie-asking-players-why-they-stopped-playing-in-destiny-survey/
https://www.google.com/amp/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2016/1/24/10819242/destiny-should-i-stop-playing?client=safari
In regards to not getting my money's worth:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/09/21/something-just-feels-off-with-destiny-rise-of-iron/#488ad91e236d
Edit (Courtesy of More Cowbell) I should've taken your advice!
[quote]Why I didn't purchase RoI and am quitting Destiny soon -
My account has 2,000+ hours played, so I have enough experience to offer the opinions below
- I’m a pve first player. Destiny’s focus is obviously on pvp. RoI didn’t offer enough new pve content
- The sandbox team at Bungie hasn’t figured out how to balance weapons after two+ years
- Instead of making gradual adjustments and assessing the results, whenever a weapon is overused, it is nerfed to the point of uselessness
- The pvp nerfs are pushed without regard to their effect on pve
- Crucible is broken and mostly a miserably frustrating experience due to the matchmaking system, lag, red bar warriors, nerfs, etc.
- The rng loot system hooked me, but eventually pushed me away from the game
- Rng is weighted per player account. Not all accounts are weighted the same
- The loot drops are stuck in cycles on individual player accounts
- Smart loot either doesn’t work or doesn’t exist
- Let’s be honest, video games are a waste of time. That said, you don’t want to feel like you are wasting your time while playing. The loot system creates this feeling in game
- Microtransactions that are subject to rng. Holiday events are pathetic cash grabs
- Last, but not least, the developers allowed an entire year pass without fixing the bugged vanguard, crucible and faction package drops. This is inexcusable. The developers either couldn’t figure out the problem or didn’t care to fix it. I don’t want to grind for drops in year three that may not be possible on my account.[/quote]
[b][u]NEW FOR D2[/u][/b]
Wow this post became relevant again. I have played daily for my break so far.... After the honeymoon phase I am already bored and pissed that Bungie will not listen to their community.
Looks Like this guy will go to Anthem. And when I do, I shall delete my characters and uninstall. Thanks bungo.
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So what you're saying is that we should nerf Fusion Rifles?
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The only part I take issue with is that comparing BF1 to Destiny is like comparing a tire iron to a potato. They're so vastly different that they're incomparable. Comparing graphics between a game developed to run on 360/PS3 and on built in 2015/16 for PS4/XBone is obviously going to yield results favoring your argument. You're right about the issues, but comparing this to BF1 is hardly fair in terms of graphics and obviously the gameplay is so different I don't even need to go into that.
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I can understand how you feel about the tooics you mentioned. I feel the same way on many of the issues, not enough to quit just yet, but considering it. Destiny 2 is definitely a BIG Questionmark in my book. I really don't like how bungie handles their community and their "balancing". Either way, I hope you find what you want and is fun for you in BF!
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I agree, at the moment the grind to 400 is a pain (at least for me) I am at 399, at the moment, so I guess I cannot really complain. But all i need is a 400 heavy and legs (currently at 399 each). When i get an exotic engram in that field, i get all excited thinking 'Woohoo, finally gonna get to 400' So you can appreciate my disdain when it drops at 399!!!! (this has happened for 7 heavy exotics and 5 leg exotics) If that was not a PITA.. I decide to do strikes to get keys to open chests (keys drop at an awful rate) but when they do, and i decide to open a chest that would otherwise correspond to a % chance at a heavy drop, i do not get it... Making the grind for keys and opening chests, a chore... I tried PvP (despite being god-awful at it) in hopes that the end-game rewards would give me at least a 400 pair of legs (and a heavy at 400 to boot)... But nope! everything but! lol I am looking forward to IB when it drops, as i really hope that, that would be the key for the last 2 drops i need to get to 400. But at the moment, i am so deride at the game at the moment, that I am not sure I will get the drops i need!
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Honestly, you got three years out of a game. Has that ever happened before? My guess is you can count them on one finger or less. I know I haven't. Cod is fun for what, 6 months? Bf will be old by New Years. Destiny isn't perfect and it isn't for everyone. As someone who's enjoyed it from day 1 (not a beta but day 1), I thank you for playing. Chances are the $100-$200 you spent over the last three years helped make it more enjoyable for me and my other day 1 friends. While I believe you'll be back once you grow bored for BF, I hope you find what you're looking for. At 399, 399 and 397 with a very minimal amount of crucible/trials, I feel like playing smarter, not "grindier" is the key. Yes it helps I have a raid group but we've only attempted 2 hard modes since it came out. One failed at monitors and another completion. Good luck with BF. I hope you have fun.
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Hate to see you go, Rogue. It was fun raiding with you.
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Edited by MrParadox002: 11/1/2016 9:33:56 PM[quote]Btw, they don't nerf anything. [/quote] BWHHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Clearly, somebody has never payed attention to Battlefield's patch notes before. The fact that so many in the Destiny community seem to [i]still[/i] have a problem with nerfs when it's a completely normal part of a games evoulution is incredibly funny and sad.
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Enjoy battlefield 1 kid. Soon there will be borderlands 3. Then bungie can keep their constant 390 drops and pvp focused game forever. -blam!- them.
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I'm not sure how Destiny 2 would work for us. If weapons, silver, and cool items are transferrable, I will play it.
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There is a reason why battlefield is a best seller on amazon. It's being sold out everywhere. The graphics a stunning and beautiful almost lose yourself in pvp just to look at the detail. The guns hit registration is flawless and if you don't hit its the bullet drop and each weapon has a different drop off and range effectiveness. I love the game considering I do extremely well in battlefield. I did enjoy my time in destiny I do raid with the guys every now and then or play some trials but pvp wasn't my greatest strong suit in destiny so I'm trying titan fall and going to my roots of real combat tactics as far as military goes. We all have opinions, I do know why servers suck in destiny and sometimes I don't think the developers care but it is a decent game I just can't seem to grind anymore because I feel like I'm being drained over doing the same thing over and over again. I hope destiny doesn't make dumb choices because the fan base wouldn't want it to turn out like COD which is certainly dying. To the guardians that love the game I commend you that you can keep grinding but for me I am going to new things and continuing getting my battlefield on.
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[quote]Disclaimer- this is not an attention seeking post. I post this in hopes that my feedback gets seen and is considered by Bungie, because my opinions are shared. There are people leaving this game. Here are my reasons. I already know I have a 0.0101010101 chance of this post being considered, but it's for the record. End Disclaimer - Here's the reasons why I switched from Destiny to Battlefield 1. I've never been lagging or DDOSing cause of the dedicated servers. Also, with smooth gameplay and true gun skill- it's a game with a skill gap. Btw, they don't nerf anything. To add to this, snipers can be spotted and taken out- yet when a skilled sniper comes along, all credits due. Shotguns in battlefield would make Destiny players cry nerf all the time- oh no, a shotgun that fires at its true range. To add to this, the graphics are amazing- maps are huge for multiple styles of play. And oh -- 38 vs 38! A true war! Destiny lost me after their recent update. They made sure 390-400 will be even more struggle as if there wasn't one already. They capped factions- making patrols, bounties, and strikes useless. Also, the micro transactions are ridiculous. I'm done with Destiny- I'm not getting Destiny 2 considering they will break their promise that "Your guardian will always be with you- 10 year plan" has been scrapped to feed the streamers and PC crowd- ignoring their dedicated players. They want to throw away our 3 years of gaming away. Bungie with Activision has proven money is more important than a quality game. Still no dedicated servers, stupid graphics, and terrible gameplay. To add to this- people get banned so easily for name calling and public shaming of cheaters- BUT OH the cheaters and elitists who love to belittle others don't get any warning. They get to continue, and BUNGIE LISTENS TO THEM because they give free publicity. How cheap. But you can get 400 drops! But where can I get 400 drops outside the raid and doing 5 hours of strikes? Oh and trials bounties drop 390 gear. It's all capped. I believe since they did that, they should also cap crucible drops (as crucible isn't end game except Trials). There's no legit reason to cap vanguard and crucible rep and faction drops at 390. Also the exotics I've farmed recently are decrypting at my light or below, making that stupid retarded to grind. Archons forge helped, but only with the ghost and artifact. The ARMOR and weapon drops only go up to 385. I already have good rolls on rep guns I like- so seriously no reason to rank up anything anymore for me- unless they get rid of the cap. Don't get me started with "use LFG to find a raid group" because 1) When I find a group and I don't have the hard mode emblem, I'm kicked. 2) When I make a group, and it doesn't go the way they wanted it (30 minutes or less lol) they quit mid raid and it starts a chain of quitting. So LFG is out of the question for me. Trials? I love it, I just don't wanna sweat like yah forever on the weekend. Destiny ripped 3/4ths of the methods to level up and are forcing us to pay streamers for flawless, pay streamers for DDOS https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/216956815/0/0 -Credits to UltraNoah (it's a known issue), pay sherpas to help with the raid. Literally no reason to keep a solo player. To add to this, they nerf everything that becomes useful. Btw, my skeleton key drop rate for 1 week now is 1/30 strikes. Exotic drop rate for 1 week now is 1/25 3oC. Not worth my time anymore cause Bungivision wants money and doesn't want us to "make our own destiny."[/quote] There is a huge skill gap in destiny.
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Edited by bobswerski: 11/1/2016 6:07:25 PM- Claims its constructive feedback and not attention-seeking - Proceeds to use the word desticle Sorry, chief. Lost all credibility right there. Go play whatever game you want, let us know when you clocked as many hours in any other game and don't feel the same way. Besides, if you don't want to do Trials and aren't super in to the raid, there's really no point to getting to 400 light, it has no significant benefit anywhere else. Makes a puny difference in IB but you can probably get a crapton of drops there when it comes back.
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I don't blame you for leaving, but I only half agree with your reasons for leaving 1. This is the easiest it has ever been to reach max light outside of the House of Wolves DLC. Faction packages have never given max light so why should they now? 2. I agree LFG has been a horror show with this DLC, but it has always been that way. Matchmaking won't fix that it will make it worse in my opinion. Just got to add the good players that you do raid with and slowly build a friends list of friendly skilled raiders. 3. People charging for carries: Why blame them? everyone knows time=money so why not try and make a quick buck off of it? I don't do it but you can't blame the people that are doing it so long as there are people out there willing to pay to get carried/sherpa'd. 4. Skeleton keys seem to drop just as often for me as strike specific gear in year 2, I do think nightfalls need a buff to skeleton key drops. All in all though, I don't blame you for leaving. I myself will be leaving once I get the raid shader and complete all of the challenge modes. There is just simply nothing left for me to achieve in this game outside of maybe starting a stream to help people in raids and trials, but I think I am too late to the party as it is very hard to get noticed. good luck on your future gaming endeavors
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And yet, I still play this game. It's like drugs; once you start it's hard to stop.
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I understand how you'd feel that way. I'm a solo player also and back near the end of ttk it was a pain in the neck to try and find a raid group to help me out to do the heroic raid. Sorry to see you go man but you've made some valid points.
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"lol k bye" - Bungie
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Yeah youre not leaving youre just playing another game. You leave when you delete your characters, sell Destiny, then spending the rest of your days becoming a God at Battlefield 1. Thats leaving.
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"I left Destiny for <insert random game> and that game is so great that I waste all my time posting about it on another games forum...and oh, yeah....do people still play this game?"
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i bought Forza Horizon 3 , Gears 4 for xbox one , and COD remastered and battlefield for ps4. Destiny has finally seen its own DESTINY . have fun chasing light lvls for no reason in a p2p game with DDossers and lagg idiots that do it on purpose. See ya `!
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Bungie is dumb. Everyone should quit when they did inferno trials
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[quote]Disclaimer- this is not an attention seeking post. I post this in hopes that my feedback gets seen and is considered by Bungie, because my opinions are shared. There are people leaving this game. Here are my reasons. I already know I have a 0.0101010101 chance of this post being considered, but it's for the record. End Disclaimer - This is [b]FEEDBACK[/b] for you People that don't know what it is here is the definition: Feedback- helpful information or criticism that is given to someone to say what can be done to improve a performance, product, etc. Here's the reasons why I switched from Destiny to Battlefield 1. I've never been lagging or DDOSing cause of the dedicated servers. Also, with smooth gameplay and true gun skill- it's a game with a skill gap. Btw, they don't nerf anything. To add to this, snipers can be spotted and taken out- yet when a skilled sniper comes along, all credits due. Shotguns in battlefield would make Destiny players cry nerf all the time- oh no, a shotgun that fires at its true range. To add to this, the graphics are amazing- maps are huge for multiple styles of play. And oh -- 38 vs 38! A true war! Destiny lost me after their recent update. They made sure 390-400 will be even more struggle as if there wasn't one already. They capped factions- making patrols, bounties, and strikes useless. Also, the micro transactions are ridiculous. I'm done with Destiny- I'm not getting Destiny 2 considering they will break their promise that "Your guardian will always be with you- 10 year plan" has been scrapped to feed the streamers and PC crowd- ignoring their dedicated players. They want to throw away our 3 years of gaming away. Bungie with Activision has proven money is more important than a quality game. Still no dedicated servers, stupid graphics, and terrible gameplay. To add to this- people get banned so easily for name calling and public shaming of cheaters- BUT OH the cheaters and elitists who love to belittle others don't get any warning. They get to continue, and BUNGIE LISTENS TO THEM because they give free publicity. How cheap. But you can get 400 drops! But where can I get 400 drops outside the raid and doing 5 hours of strikes? Oh and trials bounties drop 390 gear. It's all capped. I believe since they did that, they should also cap crucible drops (as crucible isn't end game except Trials). There's no legit reason to cap vanguard and crucible rep and faction drops at 390. Also the exotics I've farmed recently are decrypting at my light or below, making that stupid retarded to grind. Archons forge helped, but only with the ghost and artifact. The ARMOR and weapon drops only go up to 385. I already have good rolls on rep guns I like- so seriously no reason to rank up anything anymore for me- unless they get rid of the cap. Don't get me started with "use LFG to find a raid group" because 1) When I find a group and I don't have the hard mode emblem, I'm kicked. 2) When I make a group, and it doesn't go the way they wanted it (30 minutes or less lol) they quit mid raid and it starts a chain of quitting. So LFG is out of the question for me. Trials? I love it, I just don't wanna sweat like yah forever on the weekend. Destiny ripped 3/4ths of the methods to level up and are forcing us to pay streamers for flawless, pay streamers for DDOS https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/216956815/0/0 -Credits to UltraNoah (it's a known issue), pay sherpas to help with the raid. Literally no reason to keep a solo player. To add to this, they nerf everything that becomes useful. Btw, my skeleton key drop rate for 1 week now is 1/30 strikes. Exotic drop rate for 1 week now is 1/25 3oC. Not worth my time anymore cause Bungivision wants money and doesn't want us to "make our own destiny." Edit 1: Wow trending. I'm happy I made points we can agree on! Thanks for the support from 90% of you, to the 10% that wants to take a stab at me- do your best. I get really into logical arguments with you. I like to dissect your immaturity word for word. Edit 2: To the people who think that this is still an attention seeking post- well every post in the FEEDBACK forum must be... your logic is flawed. I'm stating my last criticisms before I go.[/quote] Your right, alot of pricks replying. But you're right
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Edited by WhitEWatchEs: 11/1/2016 7:27:09 PMThe issue with BF1 for me is it's longevity. There isn't a whole lot of content out at the moment. The other thing is, bungie can't cater to everyone. Sometimes this game just won't feel right with some people out there.
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Not trying to be like some other comments with these critiques. First off, the argument of solo players not being able to get to 400 light easily, without hours of strikes and grinding. While this is true, I feel like far too many people feel like they should be entitled to these things as a solo player. The way I see it, is that Destiny is trying to be a game where you need to play with other players, but doesn't do a good job of enforcing this. Second of all, I personally dont think you should compare Destiny to Battlefield in anyway that you do. Vastly different games, who aren't trying to be the same thing. Third, and finally, while you leaving the game is not a "good" thing, I think that everybody should honestly prepare to have to find something else to occupy them, because at this pace, the wait for Destiny 2 is gonna be a long one.
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Your slot has already been filled.
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also check out the division after the 1.4 update there. I'm at that stage too, where I run the raid for armour and all I get is weapons :( 397 seems good enough. I got The shadow of mordor and assasins creed in my back log
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trials isn't capped at 390 and please go work on your true gun skill in bf1. btw this is an attention seeking post just switch games no one cares