The man is a pathological narcissist.
He's the only person who has run for President since Richard Nixon, where I've looked at the guy and said, "This is someone who we don't dare let near any sort of real power."
The worst I have to worry about Hillary Clinton doing is being corrupt and enriching herself and her friends.
I don't have to worry about her starting a war because she got mad, and mouthed off about something.
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Na she will just leak more classified Intel and make back stabing deals with other nations. Honestly both candidates are unfit to be president. I'd rather have Obama another 4 years.
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So would I....but you don't get to do that. The Constitution won't allow it. ...and unfortunately these are the only two realistic options our system have given us to choose from. But the difference between the two is like comparing a street corner drug dealer to Pablo Escobar. One is a nuisance. The other is a monster. Not to say that Trump is a monster. But to emphasize the fact that you are dealing with someone whose behavior----when mixed with power----is very likely to have NO limits. You are talking about someone whose ego is so fragile and so incapable of dealing with criticism that he was seen absolutely seething in rage at being the butt of a joke.....at a political ROAST. How is someone like that going to handle 4 or 8 years of an entire MEDIA complex that whose entire reason for BEING will be to criticize and make fun of him. He will either have a mental breakdown...or stat wiping his ass with the Constitution to put a stop to it.
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Ya he is a bad choice didn't say that. They both suck. Honestly I don't care who wins. Either hillery wins and good for her or Trump wins good for him the one thing I have to truly say is. If they get relected something is wrong with us.
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Something is wrong with us, since these are our only choices. There is a proto-fascist element within the GOP that that Trump shamelessly pandered to en route to winning the GOP primary (Clinton's infamous "Basket of Deplorables") ...and the Democrats can't seem to function as a political party at the national level. They've had 8 years to groom people to step up in to the void that Obama's stepping aside would create...... ...an the best they could do was HIllary Clinton...and Bernie Sanders.... God Help us.
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Lol, so true.
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So true
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[quote]The man is a pathological narcissist. He's the only person who has run for President since Richard Nixon, where I've looked at the guy and said, "This is someone who we don't dare let near any sort of real power." The worst I have to worry about Hillary Clinton doing is being corrupt and enriching herself and her friends. I don't have to worry about her starting a war because she got mad, and mouthed off about something.[/quote] So very much this.
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Edited by Mr Walkway94: 10/4/2016 1:41:37 PMSame goes for Hitlary
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Edited by Wicked: 10/4/2016 1:06:43 PMMy feels about it? The only reason I'm voting for Trump is because I do [b][i]not[/i][/b] want Clinton in office. She's a big part of a system that's broken, and has been for years now. She'll continue Obama's policies. Which are not bad or misguided, but they haven't worked and we aren't a whole lot better off than when he got elected. She's too politically correct for the times we live in. She's worried about giving everyone a free lunch and making everyone happy. It doesn't work that way. And part of my biggest issue with Clinton and her political attitude, as well as many of the politicians who follow her, is their attitude toward firearms. And how they coddle the American people and say 'oh the big bad paperweights just killed someone again! Restrict, regulate, confiscate!' No. We need a leader who isn't afraid to threaten to shove a nuke up someone's ass ([b]NOT[/b] Trump. He's an idiot). So I'll be voting for Trump, and hoping he gets impeached or something so that a more reasonable politician will be appointed.
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No offense, but you sound like you have been a bit brainwashed matey. Your responses and examples are sound bites from a Faux media outlet. Nuff said.
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I don't really follow the election or pay close attention to the media. I'm basing my opinion on what I know of them from their past. I'm also a former Marine.
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Out of the pan. Into the fire. If the shoe were on the other foot, and Trump was the democratic nominee. You still wouldn't catch me dead voting for him. Despite the fact that I've been a registered Democrat for 25 years.
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Yeah I'd be the same as you in this example.
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If Trump were the Dem nominee I wouldn't be voting for him either, because I wouldn't be worried about Clinton. The [b][i]only[/i][/b] reason I'm voting for Trump is because I'm more worried about where Clinton's policies will take us than where Trump's stupidity will. Because he'll get the boot.
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The German aristocracy thought Hitler could be controlled once he assumed power. I think we all know how well that worked out. You don't let certain people near power, and doing that to protect a lifestyle is a real Faustian bargain. Because the war ended up costing those aristocrats everything, anyway. The made a deal with Devil to protect their wealth from communism, and ended up losing it anyway.
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You just compared Trump to Hitler. And it wasn't for the sake of satire or irony. Please... Just... Just stop.
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Why? Do I think that Trump will start a World War that will kill 60 million people, and gas 6 million minorities if he's elected? No. Do I think he is a personality that capable of dictatorial abuses of power if he is not carefully watched? Yes. We've already had one President who was.....Richard Nixon. And like Richard Nixon, Donald Trump is showing a number of disturbing signs of suffering from a major personality disorder.
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America is a system that, ideally, doesn't allow a president to garner too much power. Clearly sometimes a prez. will abuse what power they have. But presidents still only have presidential powers, nothing on the scale of a dictator. And I'm willing to bet that if Trump has a serious personality disorder, then Hillary most likely does as well. But I could be wrong. Suppose we shall have to see come November and during the next 4 years.
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Ummm. No. Hillary is just your common, garden-variety asshole.. Trump is the kind of guy who would have people show up on your doorstep at 3AM....or start following you around....because he didn't like what you said about him. Ideally though.....Democracy and our system of government should function in the way you suggest. That its checks and balances act to prevent one person from having too much power....and to prevent a President from acting as a dictator. In 1974 it did. The Republican party stepped up, joined with Democrats and pushed Nixon out of office. He only resigned when it became clear that he would be Impeached and thrown out of office if he didn't. But the GOP of 1974 is NOT the GOP of 2016. Democracy---at the end of the day----is an social contract. Its an agreement between the peoples of a nation that we will give our ultimate loyalty do the RULE OF LAW, and to the PROCESS of self-government above any personal ambitions or tribal loyalties. But--disturbingly---there seems to be a growing willingness on both sides of the aisle (Right >> Left) to put partisanship above the welfare of the nation and the democratic process...and that is how democracies are ultimately GIVEN away. Yes. Democracies are seldom conquered for without. They are given away form within. By citizens who put other agendas above it. They'd rather rule in "hell" than share power in "heaven". So...I'll be frank....just as the GOP has had little stomach to stand up to Trumps shameless demagoguery during the campaign...I have little faith in their stomach to stand up to any extra-constitutional abuses that a Trump Presidency might want to engage in. Because having things THEIR WAY is more important than HOW they got that way....or the consequences that result from them. Like a friend of mine who has such strong need to be right that she'd literally burn the house down around the both of you simply to win an argument. Here need to be right having very few limits.
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Edited by Wicked: 10/4/2016 3:33:46 PMThe citizens who are putting their agendas above the welfare of others.. Are the politicians who are currently in office. Clinton included. Which is why I said our current federal govt is a broken system. And also why I think electing someone from outside the system, regardless of how much of a reckless, narcissistic prick he is, is the first step toward getting some positive change. Also, the United States is not a democracy and never has been. Which is somewhat part of the issue, as a rift has formed between the people and our elected officials.
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[quote]The citizens who are putting their agendas above the welfare of others.. Are the politicians who are currently in office. Clinton included. [b][u]Which is why I said our current federal govt is a broken system. And also why I think electing someone from outside the system, regardless of how much of a reckless, narcissistic prick he is, is the first step toward getting some positive change.[/u][/b] Also, the United States is not a democracy and never has been. Which is somewhat part of the issue, as a rift has formed between the people and our elected officials.[/quote] This so wrong on so many levels, it's extremely dangerous to think like this.
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Edited by Wicked: 10/5/2016 1:38:36 AMExplain please.. Which part of my thinking? Thinking that our system is broken? Or electing someone who will remind the people of how -blam!-ed up our system is? (and motivate them to change it)
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Which part? The fact that you think the system being "broken" is a greater evil than handing one of the most powerful political offices in the world to someone without the termperment to use that power responsibly. That is how Germany got saddled with Hitler. The German Aristocracy by and large KNEW that he was a sick -blam!-, but considered him to be less of a threat (to them) than Communism. So they helped broker the deal that installed him as Chancellor, figuring they could control him once he had power. Not only could they not control him. He first smashed up what was left of Germany's democracy. Smashed up most of Europe...and then wound up smashing up Germany and leaving it a divided nation (half of which was under Communist rule) for 50 years. Deals with the Devil, NEVER end well. In the end, you never get what it is you really want.....and you usually wind up CREATING very thing you were looking to avoid when you made the deal.
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Edited by Wicked: 10/5/2016 1:15:54 PMI'm not really sure you understand how the office of the president works. Or how the little power the president has. Or the differences in the American people of 2016 and the German people of the 1930s. Or how much power the people have. And the reason you're so afraid of a man like Trump being elected, is because you have so little faith in our system of government. Also, you're talking to me, rather condescendingly I might add, as though I want Trump elected president. [b][i]I do not want that[/i][/b]. Trump is an absolute retard. But Clinton has already proven that her policies and methods don't work. You keep trying to compare Trump to Hitler. [b][i]THEY ARE NOTHING ALIKE[/i][/b]. It's hilariously absurd of you to think that a man like Trump could or would in any way end up doing to the modern United States what hit did to 30s and 40s Germany. It's also kind of insulting to me that you have such little faith in our people or the armed forces. Do you think the people would just blindly follow a psychotic dictator? That's the entire purpose of the 2nd Amendment! It was designed to prevent the government from becoming an overpowered dictatorship. Which is also why the 2nd Amendment reads: The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. And quite honestly, reading you comments and opinions, you sound very educated. But you also sound like a coward. You sound like the kind of person that thinks we don't need guns because we can call the cops, and we don't need fire extinguishers because we can call the fire department. The fact that you're so scared to elect a man like Trump, because you fear some imagined, potential dictatorial power trip, is the really scary part. That you'd rather have a lying, information leaking, two-faced, money grubbing bureaucrat who has compromised our security, and who's poor job performance and terrible, hesitant decision making has led to the deaths of American citizens, rather than a guy who's too stupid not to get impeached and get a reasonable individual put in place, is really -blam!-ing scary. Our system is broken. It's why we have a greater national deficit than any other time in US history. It's why people think that the government is some omnipotent, omniscient power. It's also why our politicians and elected officials do whatever the hell they want, and all we can do is choose the lesser of evils. They've very cleverly helped the people forget that, as a democratic republic, [b][i]they work for us[/i][/b]. And all of that is the reason we're in the mess that we're in. Yes, our system is -blam!-ing broken.
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Edited by TheArtist: 10/5/2016 1:32:42 PMI understand that you have a pronoun problem.....because I understand quite well what I'm talking about. (Never assume you know who you are talking to on the Internet, or what you THINK they know. Because 90% of the time you are going to be wrong.) 1. The President runs the EXECUTIVE branch of the government...and because of Seperation of Powers...there is very little that Congress and The Supreme Court (Legislative and Judicial Branches) can do to limit that authority. Congress provides Oversight...and has the ability to cut off funding. The SCOTUS....has SOME authority to call the Executive to heel when it feels the Constituion ahs been violated. But the when that can be invoked...and the Judicial branch's ability to ENFORCE its will is MURKY..and never been tested. In fact the ability of the Congress to remove a President from office via Impeachement has never really been tested. Johnson and Clinton were acquitted. Nixon resigned to avoid being humiliated. 2. Separation of powers ONLY works if the people running the government put tribal and partisan agendas aside. In 1974, the GOP did that. They reached across the aisle, joined with Democrats to push an out-of-control President out of office. But today's GOP is a group that puts partisanship and having control of the country and the government above all other concerns. Not only did the Republican Congress FAIL in its responsibility to oversee the Bush (44) Administration...they were little more than a rubber stamp. 3. If Separation of Powers is lost to partisanship and win-at-all-costs authoritarian politics.....then ALL bets are off. The Presidency now has the potential to become disproportionately powerful. In fact the entire governing philosophy of the Bush years was BUILT around the notion of the President being what many considered Unconsittionally powerful. Google "The Unitary Executive". Power once taken, is almost never given back. Other constitutional protections now come into jeopardy....and the reach and scope of the Executive functions of Governent------FBI, CIA, NSA, Justice Department, IRS, the Miltiary, just to name a few-----now become the potential sources of great mischief..... ...and even possible oppression. [i]Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty; power is ever stealing from the many to the few. The manna of popular liberty must be gathered each day or it is rotten. The living sap of today outgrows the dead rind of yesterday. The hand entrusted with power becomes, either form human depravity or esprit de corps, the necessary enemy of the people. Only by continued oversight can the democrat in office be prevented from hardening into a despot; only by unintermitted agitation can a people be sufficiently awake to principle not to let liberty be smothered in material prosperity.” [/i] IOW. The arrogant assumption that you could never LOSE your democracy IS THE FIRST STEP TO LOSING IT. Because it creates the environment that allows those power-hungry forces that exist in every society to slowly tear down and undermine the very structures that limit their power, and protects freedom. It CAN happen here.