Got about 2696. Nothing special. I used to hate them in Year One. Only used them in Vanilla for breaking shields because shit was really hard back then. Once TDB came out, I pretty much never really used them again until TTK because then I started appreciating them as weapons. To be fair, they're underrated, but only because they were godly in Vanilla and got shut down with a weapons patch. They definitely need some work, but you can't blame the people for not seeing the good in them. I am seeing a bit of a resurgence though. Personally, I don't want to see them get better. The reason I hated them in Year One, Vanilla especially, was because they were SOOOO good. Shit drove me crazy. However, I'm not so vain that I'll complain if they get a push forward. I'll just keep on doing my thing, and maybe I'll actually use them since I do actually like them now.