explain? Like I explained myself....

Well as you said, pvp is kinda off. And in general the activities you describe gives grimoire - but grimoire is more based on time spent.... i had hardly done much fps games before destiny - but still way better than ppl with 4500 grimoire... further more, exp is not equal to skill. I like my scout riffle, so my grimoire is lower than ppl doing 10000 kills with hand cannons ( why play with them if i dislike them ) and i do not get any better skills by doing 100 strikes with 5 different weapons, which i never will ( as it is too boring )

Isn't time played = time spent? Some people have just as much Grimoire as me but have played way less or way more. And some people have less Grimoire then me but played tons. For fps background, that will help you in the PvP part of the game. PvE in destiny is pretty much the same thing, you learn the pattern you get used to it. Lets take a look at your stats for a minute, hope you don't mine. [b]PvP[/b] KD - .86 DTR Skill - 25 You're pvp skill is pretty low, but can definitely improve as you play more pvp. The first CoD I played, my KD was around .80 the next one it jumped to a 1.5. [b]PvE[/b] Vault of Glass Completions - 2 Crota's End Completions - 8 Kings Falls Completions - 0 You haven't done much raid but yet you said, "but still way better than ppl with 4500 grimoire " I really don't get at what you are trying to go on about here.

Take a look at both hunter and warlock - see history? On warlock it says recent is 1.6, and recent high is 2.9... history also reveals last 5 games on warlock is all above 1 kd, even above 2.0 kd. Regarding pve, nope not done much raid, takes too long for me to be online. But i have done several parts of kings fall, and i did do better than many others. And as i am main pvp minded, i do better in pvp than players with above 4k grimoire. That is a fact. I did pvp from lvl 10 or so, died endlessly, so ye back 1.5 years ago i agree i was bad.