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[url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3ivw3k/does_grimoire_really_correlate_with_skill_with/]Note : Also check out this reddit post, its another experiment done with Grimoire[/url]
[b]NOTE : GHOST GIVE 760
NOTE : CALCIFIED FRAGMENTS GIVE 310[/b]
If a person has more experience they tend to have more skill.
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I am not saying all low Grimoire score players are bad, I am not saying all high Grimoire score players are good. But majority of the high Grimoire score players are good, and majority of the low Grimoire score players are not good. Think about it, there are a lot of people with low Grimoire scores, some this might be there first FPS, some might be extreme casuals, some just don't care. But people with high Grimoire score play the game a lot, they care about the game and spend a lot of time on it.[/b]
Let me give you an example. I have been doing this for the past weeks and it has worked out for me. When I am looking for a raid group I would go to LFG and post something similar to this.-
[quote]Need people for a fast raid run. Only requirement I have is must have a 4600+ Grimoire score[/quote]
And I posted this morning -
[quote]Looking for 5 players to do 2 fast runs. Only requirement is to have a 4600+ Grimoire and have enough time to run it more than once. 1 run should take 50mins.[/quote]
The people who met the requirements had no problem messaging there Grimoire score, but others got so mad, they called me a "grimoire scub", "fu.cking retarded", and more stuff. Some people can't read at all and posted their light level. I didn't care about light level at all. It happened every week I've done this. It was really ridiculous.
Do you want to know the time for all 3 of my runs?
54m 27s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4662858649 (Warlock)
1h 4m 53s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4663058534 (Titan)
51m 39s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4663230540 (Hunter)
All of these runs went smoothly, becasue of that one requirement. If I would've had a light level requirement there is no telling what will happen, majority of the time it just goes bad. It is so easy to get carried to 315 and it is so easy just to get there without trying. Grimoire score shows more skill then a light level. So please don't message me on LFG if you don't meet my requirements and don't say "add me" if you don't meet them either.
It's my fireteam, if you don't meet the requirements then you can't join so don't rage at me. Do you rage at someone asking for 315+ light level when you are 313? Do you rage at someone asking for Black Spindle, when you don't have the gun yet?
Now let tell you what actually goes into a Grimoire score, and its not just dead ghost -
Your grimoire score will increase if you :
Get Crucible kills on Warlock, Hunter and Titan
Get PvE kills on Warlock, Hunter, and Titan
Played during the House of Wolfs days, when fallen attacked on patrol
Killed certain bosses in PvE
Killing an amount of certain enemies in PvE
Get weapon kills with all types of weapons, not just a shotgun and hand cannon ;p
Playing multiply PvP modes and winning at them, not just control and iron banner.
Playing maps in Crucible for the first time.
Playing events in the game,
Finding ghost/frags exploring the game.
All these will increase your Grimoire score, becasue it gives you a feel for the game, you are playing the game while doing this. Yes this might be like other FPS games but it still plays a bit different. Yes some people have an awesome FPS background and are already amazing in PvP.
Someone who has been playing longer would know more. There are some prodigies in the world but not a lot, it takes time to get good. Remember in Elementary school when your teachers would always say practice makes perfect, it actually works a lot of the time but not all the time.
[b]PvP Skill section of the tread -[/b]
When I look for a trails group on LFG I always say have a 1.3 KD or higher because my KD is 1.3. I do not base PvP skills off grimoire, because lots of people have a FPS background and are good.
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No it shows experience, but experience can mean skill but not all of the time.
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It takes no skill to find ghosts. You're just bad and need a carry
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Once you reach 4000 almost all of the rest of the grimoire is from finding ghosts. How do some people think picking up dead ghosts requires skill? No idea
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Not many people refer to grimoire for skill, [b][u]however[/u][/b] it does show who has the most time invested in the game, and with a lot of things, you get better the more the you play it. This is obviously not for all cases, but generally speaking it is true
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My grimoire is a representation as to how bored I was while I was laying up at home due to a injury suffered at work.
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Looks like people disagree with you, including me.
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No. It just shows how much grinding you've done
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Ok, before I go on a long spiel, grimoire is honestly really dumb and shows NO representation of skill what so ever. People like me either a) don't feel it's worth wasting 6 hours of their lives on a guide farming stupid little ghost that give no real legit reward, and quite frankly it really isn't worth some stupid number. Please explain to me why it's worth it. b) 4600 grimoire is insane. You could have done kings fall 26,000 times and not have that much, yet can solo it faster with 4 people of that then with your team of 6 46k grimoire I also want to ask why. Just why. Why the hell would you was hours of your life farming little ghosts around the world using guides off the internet for some stupid number? If you say that takes skill your completely wrong. The only reason I'd EVER do that is if I had nothin else to do for the next ten hours, and I have a life, so that barely happens. TL/DR: Only low lives with no life spend precious hours of their lives (not that they have them) on the internet running around the destiny universe collecting little dead lights for a number. That you for your time and this has been zeepenguin. I'm out!
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I don't ghost she'll hunt or use auto rifles I also don't do a lot of stuff that is just bonus so I have 3880 but can do all a 4850 grim can do
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Overlong,stupid post.Grimoire only indicates how long you've spent grinding.There is NO skill involved here,its a fricken video game.Its like saying 'im really skilled at watching movies'.A skill is transferable and has benefit to others,gaming is not a 'skill'.
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Edited by chickengoujohn93: 2/19/2016 8:40:07 AMWho would be better on a Hard Mode Oryx CP??? A player with skill but absolutely has no damn clue what he is doing or has to do. or A player with less skill but knows the Raid inside out and could do it blindfolded (exaggeration). Grimoire is a reflection of experience and I have never had a bad Raid run with people in the high 4000s Grimoire.
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Yes to some extent for things like rumble wins etc. But it doesn't really show for raid completions as you get the grimoire for doing it once
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My grimoire is 4160 and I'm still the only one on most of my raid teams that can consistently stay alive.
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Yes, because KNOWLEDGE is true power.
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I usually find people with higher grimoire are more likely to get things done.
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All of you plebs that voted "Yes", need to rethink your lives.
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That was true in year one, not so much now.
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I wouldn't say 95℅.
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Lol @ people saying that ghosts takes this massively long time to collect and that they'd never waste their time. How many games have you played that you collected hidden things in the game world for fun? Fallout bobble heads? GTA games since forever? Assassins creed? Gears of war tags? Halo skulls? Basically every game ever? Finding all the ghosts in destiny is easier than basically every game I listed to boot. And ghosts don't account for THAT much of the score either. Rant ended
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Every time I see a 4800+ grimoire in trials I know it's a raid fgt and sucks major donkey balls, I don't get intimidated by high grimoire
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I'll just say I've never played with someone that had a high grimoire that didn't know what they were doing
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No. Prior to TTK, I was often holding the flag at the start of PvP matches ... I was also often at the middle to the bottom of the score sheet. 'Nuff said.
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If I went ghost collecting my grimoire would be 4600+ I'm still a scrub