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[url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3ivw3k/does_grimoire_really_correlate_with_skill_with/]Note : Also check out this reddit post, its another experiment done with Grimoire[/url]
[b]NOTE : GHOST GIVE 760
NOTE : CALCIFIED FRAGMENTS GIVE 310[/b]
If a person has more experience they tend to have more skill.
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I am not saying all low Grimoire score players are bad, I am not saying all high Grimoire score players are good. But majority of the high Grimoire score players are good, and majority of the low Grimoire score players are not good. Think about it, there are a lot of people with low Grimoire scores, some this might be there first FPS, some might be extreme casuals, some just don't care. But people with high Grimoire score play the game a lot, they care about the game and spend a lot of time on it.[/b]
Let me give you an example. I have been doing this for the past weeks and it has worked out for me. When I am looking for a raid group I would go to LFG and post something similar to this.-
[quote]Need people for a fast raid run. Only requirement I have is must have a 4600+ Grimoire score[/quote]
And I posted this morning -
[quote]Looking for 5 players to do 2 fast runs. Only requirement is to have a 4600+ Grimoire and have enough time to run it more than once. 1 run should take 50mins.[/quote]
The people who met the requirements had no problem messaging there Grimoire score, but others got so mad, they called me a "grimoire scub", "fu.cking retarded", and more stuff. Some people can't read at all and posted their light level. I didn't care about light level at all. It happened every week I've done this. It was really ridiculous.
Do you want to know the time for all 3 of my runs?
54m 27s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4662858649 (Warlock)
1h 4m 53s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4663058534 (Titan)
51m 39s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4663230540 (Hunter)
All of these runs went smoothly, becasue of that one requirement. If I would've had a light level requirement there is no telling what will happen, majority of the time it just goes bad. It is so easy to get carried to 315 and it is so easy just to get there without trying. Grimoire score shows more skill then a light level. So please don't message me on LFG if you don't meet my requirements and don't say "add me" if you don't meet them either.
It's my fireteam, if you don't meet the requirements then you can't join so don't rage at me. Do you rage at someone asking for 315+ light level when you are 313? Do you rage at someone asking for Black Spindle, when you don't have the gun yet?
Now let tell you what actually goes into a Grimoire score, and its not just dead ghost -
Your grimoire score will increase if you :
Get Crucible kills on Warlock, Hunter and Titan
Get PvE kills on Warlock, Hunter, and Titan
Played during the House of Wolfs days, when fallen attacked on patrol
Killed certain bosses in PvE
Killing an amount of certain enemies in PvE
Get weapon kills with all types of weapons, not just a shotgun and hand cannon ;p
Playing multiply PvP modes and winning at them, not just control and iron banner.
Playing maps in Crucible for the first time.
Playing events in the game,
Finding ghost/frags exploring the game.
All these will increase your Grimoire score, becasue it gives you a feel for the game, you are playing the game while doing this. Yes this might be like other FPS games but it still plays a bit different. Yes some people have an awesome FPS background and are already amazing in PvP.
Someone who has been playing longer would know more. There are some prodigies in the world but not a lot, it takes time to get good. Remember in Elementary school when your teachers would always say practice makes perfect, it actually works a lot of the time but not all the time.
[b]PvP Skill section of the tread -[/b]
When I look for a trails group on LFG I always say have a 1.3 KD or higher because my KD is 1.3. I do not base PvP skills off grimoire, because lots of people have a FPS background and are good.
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Goes give 760!? Wow so my grimoire score would be 4500~ if I'd just ghost hunt all day.
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Anyone who said no is bad.
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Wouldn't say it means you have high skill but experience that helps a lot. You know if you have a guy with high/max grimoire they know what they are doing tbh
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No I have 4730 an am missing a lot of crucible and never been flawless There's PvE skill and PvP skill completely different
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Experience- Maybe Skill- Shit no!
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High grimoire means you've played a lot. You can play a lot and develop bad habits and still be a poor player. I have 600 hours invested into crucible but I'm a negative kd scrub. Time invested doesn't mean you will be good at something. Sometimes people are great starting off and don't require much practice and other people just stop improving after time.
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Grimoire is time played. Its no more than that. To say grimoire is equal to skill is like saying collecting pokemon cards means your good at pokemon.
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Edited by Inclement Karma: 2/22/2016 9:49:23 PMExperience and skill are (sometimes) related, but not the same thing. A big part of persuasion is knowing the meanings of the words you use.
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Grimoire doesn't show skill, it just shows experience or how long someone's fed to the game
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Edited by I Like To Draw: 2/22/2016 8:52:35 AMI'll give you the short answer [spoiler]grimoire doesn't mean anything... Other than you play the game a lot and farm things you really shouldn't.[/spoiler]
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Whats grimoire?
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Alls I gotta say, if you have low Grimore score and you say you're good at the game and you only play PvP, then GTFO.
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The thing is, this actually legit works for speed runs. Hard to argue against it. Valid points made
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Why do you base pvp skill off k/d for trials? Use destinytrialsreport and check win percentage, k/d in last 15 matches and ELO. ELO: score improves based on teams you beat, improves alot if you beat great teams, improves slightly if you beat not so good teams and vice versa for losses. I would much rather have somebody who can win as a team then who has a huge k/d. I have seen people with 1.7 k/d and 1200 elo because they just play for themselves and lose games. Moving onto grimoire it's impossible to judge unless they have max grimoire or there abouts. Max grimoire means they have played all pvp aspects and pve aspects alot and won alot of them. They atleast know how to play. Trials is a whole different level though.. You can win 20 rumble matches back to back but you won't understand trials. You need to learn all about rez snipes, pushing for rez, knowing what supers are coming and when to time supers to benefit the team. You need to adapt round by round at times. Grimoire doesn't come into it.
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Day 1 player w 3700 grimiore and am fairly good I never payed attention to it it doesn't matter
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///on average you're correct. The people I play with that have extremely high grimoire have a level of commitment to the game the typically manifests in higher skill.
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No because most of my un finished Grim is Ghost fragments, cal fragments and the KF Raid. Yet Im a scrub? Been here since week 2 of release, finished every piece of content up to KF. Its a game people. Play it as you wish, numbers and stats dont mean jack.
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Yes. I'm usually the one who never messes up in the raid. During War Priest, I always grab aura first and do DPS while maintaining the aura. I'd agree with this for PvE, but not often for PvP. ~[i]TheGreatNike[/i]
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Completely agree
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You have a pm there.
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You sir are 100% accurate. I literally couldn't say it any better.
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I see grimoire as more of a measure of time invested than skill. Mine is all pve. Ghosts, fragments, etc. All acquired from playing for extended periods of time. I wouldn't consider myself skilled for being above 4500. I just play alot
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Tbh anything sub 4800 and your a scrub in my eyes.
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I am the Elite 1%. Scrubs be mad.
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I did a 4700 grimore requirement for oryx challenge fresh a couple of weeks ago. There was 0 wipes and 3 deaths total the whole time
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No, when most of it comes from grabbing ghosts and fragments...that doesn't make any sense. It means more time than anything.