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2/14/2016 9:22:11 AM
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This. It is the game mechanic, blame Bungie for leaving loopholes not so much the weapon.
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Haha loopholes are exploits. I'm not against the OP tho just bad verbiage
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loopholes are not exploits and never was in any game ever.
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Edited by Murr: 2/15/2016 12:12:54 AMA loophole is a flaw in the system that players can exploit to their advantage, rather than following the intended process. Explain it how it's not the same....when the very act of using a loophole is exploiting it. It's English, not a debate. Class in session: http://www.howtogeek.com/trivia/the-term-loophole-used-to-refer-to-an-exploit-has-its-origins-in/
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It is not an exploit just because you want to say it is or use what some site on the internet says.. they are not the authority of if it is an exploit or not and never was. a loophole is not a flaw it is an intended effect of how it was meant to work. Just because you do not like it and want it removed does not make it a problem or exploit ever.
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Edited by EndlessChipotle: 2/14/2016 9:31:12 AMExactly, if the weapon does what it's supposed to do (generate ammo) then it can't be considered an exploit. They can't just remove the one thing that makes icebreaker exotic after all.
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The fact switching weapons keeps the bullets is an exploit.
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no it is not, it is how it was meant to work.
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I know, but the fact that you can get bullets that you're not supposed to have on a gun is unfair.
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unfair does not make it exploit.
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Edited by Murr: 2/15/2016 1:34:47 AMYou guys are arguing that ice breaker, invective, and side arm perks were designed to create a competitive advantage in crucible where special ammo does not start in your inventory. When these guns were created the PvP settings weren't as such. Arguing that this is how the design was intended is baseless. I have ZERO problem with the exploit. But to idiotically claim that's why the mechanics of these weapons were created is down right crazy. That would make it an exploit. <3 it's the definition. You can talk yourself in circles but if you step in a critical thinking class at a below average community college your logic would get shredded like your mom's ass in the 80's.
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It is why the weapons were created as they are, to give players an advantage for having and using them. the fact you cannot understand this proves you do not know as much about how this game was made or meant to be as you like to think or claim. You are the idiot thinking it is an exploit and needs to be fixed/removed just because YOU do not like ti since YOU think that the game should be only about primary gun fire the most. when no that was never the basis of this game ever. No it would not make it an exploit it is called a tactical advantage and this is nothing new to any game ever. If you think your critical thinking is so great or you did so well your teacher must have sucked for passing you. for you fail critically at thinking about the reasons for the perks and how they are meant to be used. not everything in games is meant to be fair or balanced how YOU want them too just because YOU want to think they should be.
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Edited by Murr: 2/17/2016 2:02:10 AMWhen did I ever say it needed to be fixed or removed? I have no problem with it. I don't have any problem with where special ammo in PvP is. I'm simply telling you these weapons weren't designed with this loophole in mind because this environment DID NOT EXIST. It is a loophole in the design, and the act of utilizing a loophole is exploiting it. You're so hung up on what you think this argument is, you can't take a second to read, think critically, and respond with a logical argument. Your post just further exemplifies how unintelligent you are and can't even take in what simple sentences mean. No where did I say remove this, or it shouldn't be here. It's an exploit. Have a great day pork chop.
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You do not know how or why the weapons were desinged and what tehy were or were not meant to do in this game. Using a loophole is not exploiting anything it never was. Nor it is against any rules of this game or the console. It is you that is unintelligent if you think the guns were not meant to do as they do in the game. Your sad little insults prove you are not ok with it and want it removed. No one is falling for your attempted acts of being smarter or better than anyone else. It is NOT and exploit just because you want to claim it is.
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Using a loophole is exploiting said loophole. It's the act of using it. When an environment doesn't exist when something is created, you can't say the original design was intended as used today. This all is just basic intelligence man. You're arguing with yourself, have a good day.
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No it is not, it is using that said feature of the game. a loophole is not now or ever been an exploit. Yes they were designed to give you ammo when you did not have ammo or could not find ammo readily available that is why they were made with that perk.. Does not matter if this said environment existed or not before. That is how the weapons are meant to work so is not a exploit by any means.
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Edited by Murr: 2/18/2016 11:45:20 PMDefine the word exploit bud. Write it down in your reply. Tell me using a loophole is not an exploit. Thanks. Have a nice day! synonyms: utilize, harness, use, make use of, turn/put to good use, make the most of, capitalize on, benefit from; informalcash in on "we should exploit this new technology" You're just not smart, or just insanely stubborn.
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exploit n1.a striking or notable deed; feat; spirited or heroic act: v2. to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account v3. to advance or further through exploitation; promote v4. to take advantage of (a person, situation, etc), esp unethically or unjustly for one's own ends none of those pertain to what you are claiming it to be, not even number 4. for how the weapons work are how they are and were meant to work always. so there is no exploitation being done for that is how they were always meant to be able to be used. Nor where did bungie ever say it was not. and they are the ones with the final say if it is an exploit or not, not some gamer playing the game and not liking how something works.
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"Too utilize" lol hella dumb. So dumb I'm debating if you're this good at trolling
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Those are the actual definitions of the word from the meriam webster dictionary the real source of what words mean and not some website claiming to be an official authority on words. the weapons are working how they were intended it is not an exploit on how they work. nor is it really a loophole in the how the current game works. they knew that ib and invective would allow players to get ammo for their weapons from the get go when doing this. for that is what ib and invective ammo regen has always been used for in this game by smart players to regen ammo for other weapons. again you just do not like it or would not be replying so much that it is an exploit. for it is not for only the developers really get to say what is an exploit or not and they have not said it was. they amde the game it is their rules and if they allow it it is not an exploit or cheating or anything of the same at all.
