So imo mida at the moment is unbalanced and has pretty much 0 drawbacks/flaws.
To start it's in a tier of scout that 4 shots to the head similar to voc tier but mida shoots faster so big advantage there in ttk. For some odd reason mida has a huge mag for a scout rifle at a wopping 21 bullets and on top of that it's base reload is maxed. Like in what way is a large clip with max reload balanced? You can just spam shots forever without having to reload its insane. There's no penalty for missing shots! On top of that because of a large mag and fast reload why would you ever use field scout or whatever the other perk is that's not lightweight. Then worst of all the mida without a doubt in my mind has high caliber rounds as a secret perk. Those high caliber rounds really make it so u can't compete with mida from long to mid range because your getting flinched like crazy. Also the zoom on midas scope is too close it's meant to be used at long range as a scout why is it so effective in mid and extended close range.
I'd love to hear what everyone has to say supporting or arguing against my opinion please comment with something to add to discussion.
Edit: a lot of ppl are touchy on the phrase op so i changed it.
I'm enjoying the healthy discussion in here. Although there's still a lot of people just bashing my post because they love their mida. Also a lot of ppl are assuming I'm bad because I'm criticizing mida I just want the weapon to stop out performing other weps in there intended ranges where a scout shouldn't win. Midas strength should lie in it's actual exotic perk the extra mobility and hair trigger which equates to good strafing, getting to advantageous positions faster, and faster reactions.
I don't understand why people are replying this because my post isn't about it but ill address it. the comment of "why are you just now complaining about mida and weren't last year?". The answer is easy in year 1 there was a much bigger issue of the 2 shot exotic handcannons that killed at scout range. Additionally I think the last weapon update was just in december? Correct me if thats wrong but the meta only recently set in so this is the most appropriate time to address mida. I know I'm not the only one thats experienced it but I've been in close quarters to mid range situations with a pulse or AR and midas high cal rounds cause my gun to kick up like crazy so I can't land shots but the mida's totally fine and continues to peg me. I don't understand in what world that makes sense for a scout rifle to out perform a mid or close range weapon in their intended ranges respectively isn't that the point of the weapon classes?
Another comment I'd like to address is "wow if its so good why don't you just use it". The thing is destiny is a game filled with many guns that surely aren't meant to just be there as filler. They all should be viable choice in certain ranges/situations. I don't want to be forced into using 1 or a few select guns that are top tier just to be competitive and have a chance at winning I like to have fun using all the guns. After all isn't that what they're there for?
I'm going to add suggested changes so people aren't so scared of a nerf.
I suggest:
mida's mag reduced to around 15 or the reload is cut in half
mida's secret hcr are removed and replace quickdraw or field scout on the midas perk tree with hcr
increase the zoom slightly on midas scope to make it more of a long range weapon and to not perform so well in closer gun fights.
Thanks for reading my post I hope to see more quality discussion and healthy debates.
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Well if you find a gun is OP... frigging use it. However there are loads of other things that out gun the Mida including Not Like the Others, Cocytus RR4 and even NL Shadow 701X. However Mida is a reliable Scout Rifle which is excellent to practice headshots with before you move onto slower RoF, higher impact scouts. Which in my opinion, are the best weapons in the game due to a lower kill time... 3 shots and you're dead. However I think you have mistaken OP for Overused. Granted it does have very few drawbacks but it can tackled easily with a bit of preparation. Also third eye has its uses but you can get that on pretty much every primary weapon. The hair trigger does shit all for RoF and the bonus movement is a nice touch for both PvP and PvE. Try the gun out before you bash it on forums.
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Edited by Hydraaa: 1/26/2016 12:16:26 PMNo, bungie have made other weapons crap that's the only reason mida seems good. They need to decrease ttk for other weapons.
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Mida is not over powered, otherwise weapons are under powered. Mida is, in my opinion, the perfect feeling weapon, the ttk is what other weapons should strive for when used properly
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Gun has been the same since the game first came out. If you think it's OP why wouldn't you use it? If you were going to play a sport wouldn't you want to play with the best equipment? Or if you were going to war wouldn't you use the best technology available? The whole purpose of this game is to play it to get the best equipment available. So if we want to nerf this weapon, piece of armor, subclass, super, whatever it kind of defeats the purpose of this game. What people need to do is accept the fact they got beat and adapt to overcome any certain weapon or tactic and if you can't accept that then maybe they should find a different game to play. I'm not saying you suck or anything but for instance I can't bowl for shit so guess what I don't bowl.
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Its an exotic, i mean come on, its supposed to be like that, leave it alone its a testament to what scout rifles used to be like.
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Mida has always been the most balanced exotic in the game in my opinion, Its a very rewarding, forgiving and versatile weapon to use and that's why its so popular.
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If it could not have 90 Aim Assistance that would be swell.
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Instead of that shit get ride of the thorn and decrease storm caller range by 20ft.
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Edited by mudreedy: 1/26/2016 1:15:29 PMMida a very solid scout the thing that makes it feel op to fight is the hcr get unflinching and it feels far less overwhelming. Don't have that perk? The Boolean Gemini has it, Boolean is a solid rifle bit bland for an exotic but especially useful when ya need that perk
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Mida is super balanced. The hair trigger causes people to lose their shit like " WTF! MIDA eez a bullet hwose!"
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Edited by THEjusto0820: 1/26/2016 12:45:43 PMYou know someone tested all the top tier scout rifles and Mida. They all kill with 3-5 headshots, Mida taking 4 headshots to kill. The reason alot of people think its "OP" is because it has a hair trigger which allows the player to send those bullets downrange faster. So you get killed faster. Mida has the higest TtK out of all the non-auto scout rifles because of that. It's not OP, close the distance with a Mida user and you can destroy him. Just stop crying nerf and actually look up all tests done on most weapons. The only weapon I think is kinda OP is the thorn because 3 shots and burn. Other than that, snipers need an AA drop and destiny is perfect.
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It's because it essential has Full Auto, you never stagger between shots by over pulling the trigger. Which means you can land shots at the fastest time. Also because there is only 1 other similar archetype in the TTK light level is hard to find an alternative.
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It's annoying right now because it's popular, because while its [i]good[/i], it's not OP. Trust me, I've played since Day One, and I know way too much about annoying metas... *shivers* Anyways, at close range it can be beaten by just about anything if your aim is sound, at mid range it can be beaten by a pulse rifle, and at long range it can be beaten by snipers and other scout rifles (such as the NL-shadow). I'm not saying this idealistically: there is never a guarantee that you'll win a gunfight with the Mida, whereas the with Last -blam!-ing Word, there is at least some cushion. What's also true is that the gun has the highest aim assist stat in the game, high caliber rounds, a damn fine magazine, a good sight, hair trigger (which complements people like me who use a modded controller), and a +6 or 8 agility buff. This sounds extraneous, but when you consider the fact that it actually seems exotic, and that it's still balanced (just not with all the other weapons being shitty), I really don't see how you would like to alter this.
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This guy don't know what he's talking about
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Just the flinching and we good. It's the only reason why I lose gunfights against Mida users tbh, rarely. Most of you are ban wagoners and have no clue how to scout.
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Mida is the most balanced scout Remember its an exotic
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Wish we could 'nerf' the stupidity of this community tbh
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No, get over it.
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No it doesn't end thread
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Except MIDA has been the only exotic to remain the same since release... If we could just shut up and stop (not aiming at OP), that'd be great.
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That's because mida is an [b]exotic[/b]. There's a difference between legendaries and exotic. If there isn't then whats the point?
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I'll agree it is annoying right now but no that gun is in no way needing a nerf, if anything a its one of the nicest exotic weapons on all counts, looks good, it's exotic perk feels exotic, all around good weapon. The problem is in no way the mida it's that everything else we all used to use got hit by a nerf. aside from the grasp of Malok architype pulses the rest got a noticeable nerf, autos range got hit really hard months ago with a damage nerf so hard autos are still recovering from it, hand cannons while I wished they were a bit better are in a fairly good place right now. What bungie should be doing is looking into huffing every architype of weapon that doesn't get much attention or overall use, then see how that goes for a week and once we all find the new meta weapons find a balance up there, because having most of the weapons in the game dubbed meh or not worthy of ever using it just seems like a waste to have made them when there's so few primaries worth using you can count them with one hand
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Are you really bad at pvp ?
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Edited by Pope: 1/26/2016 12:11:40 PMI don't think exotic means much in yr2 . This weapon is a gun that deserves the exotic slot it . All exotics should be like the mida . Exotics should be good not worst then legendary . Please don't be the reason I can't use a scout in pvp or PVE
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Overused =/= overpowered.
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