The perks are only bad when you compare them to the rerolled weapons from year 1, which can explain why bungie left them in the past. That & ttk is basically a sequel, so progress & things of that nature. Marks & motes are hardly a grind now. I almost always have around 150 motes on each of my characters without trying to get them. & they nearly doubled the mark drop rate. There are also weekly activities that can get you around 200 marks just by completing them. If you think any of that is a grind, you should probably take a break from destiny, or stop playing altogether.

Okay. So 200 marks a week... is less of a grind than 300 marks a week? Randomizing strange coin drops is less of a grind than guaranteed strange coin drops for three characters? Oh and 300 marks a week just for vanguard side. 600 in total. Also if this is supposed to be a sequel then stop. Just stop playing. Because as bare as vanilla destiny was, this is bare as it gets IF its supposed to be a sequel. Its not. Its an "expansion" which is very loosely used because the amount of gameplay you got in vanilla is the size of an expansion for any other game. And yes you keep saying rerolled and I keep saying I didnt reroll to get my sweet perks. To solve this they could simply have gotten rid of rerolling. Thats it. But no they got rid of it and made all year one weapons obsolete. To be clear I dont have a problem with us having to buy year one exotics as year two exotics and I'm okay with leveling them up all over again but 150 marks (see above) is ridiculous for one item. I got a 290 hawkmoon to drop with three of coins and got super excited even though I had the year one all because I didn't have to grind to get it. And that, my friend, is sad. Especially when they said before TTK that they wanted the game to be less of a grind. /endrant.

Yes 200 is less of a grind than 300 & 600. With the new marks system, getting 300 or 600 now would still be less of a grind than it was before. & strange coins drop more abundantly now than before. I got 27 a week before TTK came out by doing heroic strikes, & I still get around that same amount without grinding for them. They can call it whatever they want, but it's essentially a sequel. A new armory bigger than vanilla's, a new leveling system, a new story mode (actual story mode, not 3 or 4 missions like the first dlcs), etc. 150 is a steep price to get a year 2 version of a gun you already have, but it is way less of a grind to get them & use them than it used to be. 3 of coins makes it easier than ever to get exotics, so it's not like you have to buy every single exotic you want.