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11/11/2015 6:23:48 PM
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Shotguns Continue To Ruin the Crucible (Video)
Shotguns still need to change. Lately, people care too much about their stats, resulting in majority of players using shotguns to keep those stats up. A few concerned gamers in our clan have completely given up on playing the smaller maps of Crucible to avoid getting gunned down by a shotgun everytime they play a small map. Too many of you care too much about that K/D of yours. IT DOESN'T MATTER! K/D means NOTHING in the Crucible. I've been a steady 1.3 for the past few weeks on this new account (old one was 1.29 as An0nYm0u5JAMSK8 before account ban). I've out played others on the larger maps because the "shotgun spammers" can't get a clean kill with their long range one shotter.
Now don't get me wrong. I use shotguns, BUT as a last resort. Many of the clips in this video show a single player killing me a few times in maybe a couple games, all of which were shotgun kills. If shotguns are going to be used this way, then I think it's time Bungie made the shotgun a PRIMARY weapon. It's a primary in Call of Duty for OBVIOUS reasons. Shotguns are overpowered, and they LEFT them OP, but they made them a primary. It worked. So when you get those shotgunners running in on a match, that's their only weapon with a pistol to get their kills. It just balances gameplay, but majority of games I play always have those guys running around with shotguns, then use their primary if the shotty isn't capable of getting a mid to long range kill.
Watch the video, give it a like if you want, but the shotguns need another change.
What do you think? Should shotguns be primary and left where they're at? Let me know!
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Necro for sing
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Shotguns are on Nerf 3, what more do you want, shotguns to blow kisses and hugs?
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3 RepliesShotgunners don't bother me in PvP. Snipers do.
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1 ReplyEdited by TheTrollingBear: 11/15/2015 6:27:07 PMIt looks like you're just terrible. You're trying to engage people in shotgun range with either no health, a scout rifle, or with a sniper rifle. Your positioning is the problem. Please stop crying. Got half way through, and got tired of seeing you die at point blank range... Yet cries about shotguns. At what range are they supposed to be effective exactly?
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Bro, you people whine about shotguns, snipers, titans, wtc. If they nerf them then you'll be on here whining about red death, the last word, hunters, etc. Christ you'll just be on here whining about something ....
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Actually reported someone for t-bagging you?! Lol mad. Several also looked legit, you were suppressed a couple times so of course the shots would kill you, Poor map design is the only issue. If they nerf them again, everyone will use snipers, then you'd be crying at them.
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Please, no more nerfs to shotgun. The problem is its still too easy to run around for an entire match with special weapons equipped; it always has been. Special ammo needs to only drop 4 times during a match and should be lost upon death just like heavy ammo. If you wanna cry for a nerf, cry for that one.
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Why does everyone pick on shotguns, at least these people are in your face fighting, not camping back like pansies snipeing.
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Exclusive shotgunners are scrubs. They're the same ones that cried thorn and TLW were too op. They were the guns that stopped scrubs from this play style. Now all our primaries kill so slow, it's easy for a scrub to just jump and get close to you.
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1 ReplyNo they aren't. Shotguns have been nerfed again and again, they took shot package out and you need to be fairly close to oneshot people with one. What more do you want ? 1000 yard stare and other sniper rifles are unbalanced too giving free kills to people because of their high aim assist yet I don't see people complaing about that.
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Edited by sTasis9055: 11/14/2015 6:23:14 PMAll I saw was you getting your shit rekt at point blank by shotguns... [spoiler]shotguns are meant to do that[/spoiler]
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Your potato aim and positioning are what's wrong in these clips, not shotguns
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Edited by Kovathos: 11/14/2015 6:15:53 PMShotguns are fine. Bungie's pvp map design is not. Most maps I've seen have so many choke points and tight corridors where shotguns used by skilled players can easily dominate. Stop nerfing shotguns to near useless levels. I wouldn't care if bungie actually learned to separate pve and pvp stats... Also in that video you were either consistently outplayed, shot from behind, low on health, and beaten within shotgun ranges... So I don't think shotguns are necessarily the main problem...
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4 RepliesWe were doing Kings Fall Hard Mode. We, being level 310's, blew through the raid. We were in a time crunch. Only 2 hours to complete it and XxboyXxkillaXxx had wasted 45 minutes on the jumping puzzle. We blew through Warpriest and Gogoroth. 30 minutes. Once again XxboyXxkillaXxx refused to switch from blink and wasted 20 minutes on the second jumping puzzle. We destroy the sisters in 5 minutes, the 6 of us pumping into Oyrx's Daughters. We have 20 minutes to kill Oyrx. We wipe twice, both times because of XxboyXxkillaXxx refusing to kill the ogres, claiming he is a pacifist. 10 minutes left. We do considerable damage to Oyrx in the first 3 rounds considering XxboyXxkillaXxx jumped off the side in the beginning shouting random Bill Nye quotes. Fourth round. I grab the relic easily. One guy dies by jumping into the ship. Another from the Vessel. 3 people left. We stagger Oyrx, but they don't make it to the blights. It is just me. I do barely just enough damage to Oyrx to bring him to the front. I accidentally reload my ToM, and run out of bullets killing an Aycolyte. I don't have time to use a primary synth. I put my last 3 sniper shots into Oyrx but it isn't enough. I can't use my sword. I am doomed. Oyrx chuckles. Ready to end my life. BUT WHAT IS THIS?! IN THE BOTTOM CORNER OF THE SCREEN! *Shesmynerd has joined the fireteam*. I see him rise above Oyrx. Cast in a veil of light. "Feel my wrath! For my name is Shesmyne... HE SHOT ME THROUGH A WALL!" *Guardian Down" Crap. Oyrx chuckles again. Tbaggs Shesmynerd and messages him, "Git gud skrub". BUT WHAT IS THIS! HOPE! *Smoggypluto has joined the fireteam* I hear the thud of a Sunbreaker super being used. He appears in a silhouette of light. The light slowly dies away and I see him. Smoggypluto. "I am not worthy", I cry. He looks at Oyrx. He opens his mouth but Morgan Freeman's voice comes out. "This is my swamp". He lifts up his Y10 Gjallihorn and kills Oyrx in one shot, while simultaneously Tbagging Shesmynerd's ghost. We all get our rewards. All 330 Light, except for XxboyXxkillaXxx, he gets shards. I didn't see mine. I sniffle and ask Smoggy what I got. "Check you're inventory." I completely missed Smoggy's misspelling of "your". I inspect myself and ghasp. Primary equiped: Y2 Thorn. Pre nerf. Chestpiece: Twilight Garrison. Secondary: Better Than Yours, exotic sniper. Heavy. I choke back tears. I must be strong for Smoggy. His Y10 Gjallahorn. Signed by Bill Nye, the Science guy. "Smoggy is love. Smoggy is life." I stammer. He hops on Xylar, The Timeless. "Black Ops 3 is going to kill Destiny", XxboyXxkillaXxx remarks. "Shut up Meg", Smoggy says. He winks at me and flies away to help others in need. "Smoggy is love. Smoggy is life." I repeat. The sound of Shesmynerd crying faintly in the background.
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I don't see the problem, because in every clip he either got point-blanked or outplayed, stop whining that shotguns are powerful at SHOTGUN RANGE!!! Jesus! PS: I do think very low RoF high impact long range shotguns are OP lol, that's why I infused my conspiracy theory d into a patch-a before IB started lol
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The reason it works in CoD is because you die in under half a second in CoD, all weapons kill incredibly fast vs destiny where you can soak up more damage, therefore shotguns can effectively rush and blast someone before they get killed with a primary.
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I totally agree with you but to be honest, uou were already at critically low health in most of those when the shotty killed you and you didnt necessarily get low because of one
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That was the best music ever. It sounded so good.
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Although I agree shotguns could use range nerfs, minus invective and chaperone for exotic status, you did miss a bunch of your shots. And shotguns being a close range, you shouldn't have let them get that close.
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Edited by Megamind: 11/14/2015 4:06:51 PMBecause god forbid there is a weapon that is close range.
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3 RepliesDude... I would kill to have a shotgun or a sniper as a primary. That's disgustingly overpowered. I still run no land in trials sometimes just to run the shotty sniper combo. I'm at 295 with no land equipped, so it's not much of a light problem. If they made shottys a primary, they would have to make snipers a primary, and just leave fusion rifles and side arms as secondaries? The camping would be too real.
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Shotguns on small maps snipers on big maps? Isn't that a logical decision?
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You have poor situational awareness which is great for charging shotgunners. Your skills need a buff shotguns are fine how they are.
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3 RepliesVid didn't really help your point, my gripe with shotguns right now is the fact that you can't trade kills with a sword, it shows you as misadventure but yet they get credit for the shotgun kill. I also wish high impact shotguns never existed maybe high impact snipers too, but the days where low impact shotguns were followed up by a melee and took some realm of skill was ruined the day they started handing out a ton of high impact shotguns. Check out ms5000 watts suros regime clip and watch her shotgun. It's a dated video and shows how shotguns used to be.
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some of those u just need to git gud scrub
