It's a figure of speech, but ok. Also, you disagree the forums aren't populate with conspiracy-spewing maniacs? I chose the term quite carefully.

I hear you, and I can tell from your writing you're a smart dude... I worked in mental health for many years, so the word "maniac" has some upsetting connotations there. Sorry and certainly don't mean to be the PC police.. some words just hit me in that aggro spot if you know what I mean.

Lmao you bring up you're career in mental health???? Dude you're argument in the first place was a bit pointless in the first place. Because nobody cares if bungo gives you the ability to reach 25 by spending 25$. In fact I pity the people that do spend 25$ on that. And if you think bungo will do something as stupid as make this pay to win, you got another thing coming.

Let's save this comment for later when "bungo" does something you actually consider to be stupid... I wonder if you'll eat your words or just spew more trash talk. Because clearly THIS ONE, the level boosts, THIS is the last microtransaction we'll see right? The plan all along was *just* emotes, then *just* consumables, then *just* level boosts... but THEN that's it right? Hard stop on the microtransactions now for sure. They've clearly gotten as much as they want out of them at this point right? Great argument though, I totally see your point :\

So what do you think they're gonna sell that's so bad, considering you clearly know more about that than me. I could foresee a level 40 boost, maybe some low light weapons and armor (like the vanguard pre-order) but nothing game breaking. Look at planetside. They have plenty of items you can buy with real money (way more than destiny) and there game is certainly not pay to win.

We clearly have a different perspective on simply the concept of microtransactions. I don't care what they sell. I find them unethical and anti-consumer at a philosophical level. If Destiny had microtransactions in it when the game launched, I never would have bought it out of principal, because I don't want support this type of business practice in games.. So the fact that a game that I truly loved, and put in hundreds of hours into in year one, with all intentions to put thousands more into over the next several years, added this mechanic that I find repugnant, feels like a betrayal, and has quite literally ruined the game for me. I totally understand if you don't take as hard of a stance on the topic as I do, but that's just the reality for me.