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10/26/2015 10:34:14 PM
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Regardless of if you think this event is pay to win or not, the fact of the matter is that we are getting closer and closer to pay to win. First it was emotes, now you can skip a quest with silver.
You have the right to spend your money on whatever you want but we have seen this many times before in other games. If you don't see where this is going you are being very close minded.
His point was that we put a stop to this before it gets out of hand. I have seen multiple post where kids said they spend 40$ trying to get a specific mask. That's all bungie needs to justify micro transactions and include more in the future.
They know most reasonable adult gamers won't waste their money on these things but they know the younger gamers that mostly use their parents money will. And look at where the game is being directed towards the most now.... Teen rating....
Activision has been doing this for awhile now. Just look at the last couple call of duties.
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Edited by Flailing_Weasel: 10/26/2015 11:12:58 PMToo bad it's going to move piece by piece in small enough increments that people will keep saying it's not that bad compared to what we already got. In the end, it is them enable it. And they probably won't even care. Oh well, my back log is huge and other games are right around the corner.
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Skip a quest to give you more cosmetic masks, wow so much light level earned with money. You do know that is what paying to win is right? WINNING THE GAME WITH MONEY? Not freaking getting stupid petty cosmetics and glimmer consumables and telemetries that only last during the event itself? You guys are all freaking nuts.
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[quote]People bashing on OP, a couple of things: 1. Regarding the "slippery slope": Now a lot the folks calling OP stupid and retarded and dozens of other immature crap, are almost certainly the same people arguing just a few weeks ago "Silver is just for cosmetics, quit being a tinfoil hat paranoid loser!" Well it's been maybe 2 weeks (has it even been 2 weeks yet??), and we've gone from cosmetics to consumables... THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF A SLIPPERY SLOPE. It's already happened. The slopes done slipped. In under a month we've gone from being able to buy *only* cosmetics with real world money to buying cosmetics AND consumables that provide a tangible in-game advantage (REGARDLESS of how minimal that advantage is). So continuing to bash on the OP for making the slippery slope argument in INVALID, as the slippery slope has already occurred. 2. For the multitudes arguing "But those items are already available in game for free!" You need to recognize, that you are literally making the OP's point. The word is dumb, but this IS the pay-to-win model. The idea is, there are things that can be acquired in the game by playing the game, and there is also a way to skip the in-game process and immediately purchase those things with real world cash. Whether these consumables actually let you "win" or not irrelevant, because that's a nonsense term and there's no prescription for what pay-to-win is, simply a philosophy... the point is that you can now subvert in-game processes by simply spending cash.. ..So to make the fallacy of your arguments here really clear, to say that "Those items are already available in-game from drops or the gunsmith," is equivalent to saying in this hypothetical: "Well sure you can buy a Sleeper Simulant for silver, but it's literally the exact same gun I could get by completing the quest." Again, I'm not ignorant, I realize these Halloween items are meaningless... the point is that slippery slope, that has now been proven within literally a matter of days, and the principal behind micro-transactions. Of course we don't know where they will go next with this... maybe this is the very last item you'll ever see for sale with silver other than emotes... but after already ramping up from cosmetics to consumables in days, it seems unlikely this is the last we'll see of Eververse. So while you all blindly accept this practice, or worse, chastise the OP for being critical of it... you are in fact being the *retards, idiots, fgts* or whatever other immature, inflammatory bullshit you all spew at people for sharing their opinions.[/quote]
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NOPE! We knew their would be consumables, we just knew they would be like this, irrelevant ones! I already 200+ either seeds and telemetries when ever I need em. So tell how anyone has the upper hand over me? Please go to google and type in the definition of "pay to win" thanks and good day, btw I did not read all that I am not wasting my time on a tinfoil hat. Consumables are harmless, Bungie already said they wouldn't sell anything game breaking only cosmetics, PS (CONSUMABLES ARE ONLY ACTIVE AND AVAILABLE FOR THE FESTIVAL!!!!!!!!!)
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Lmao. Right? I have never seen so many tinfoil hats in one day!
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Lmao. What I imagine when I see these ridiculous threads.
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Good points. Where is this crap to pay to skip a quest though?
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he means you can buy packages to get the other masks lol
