Kudos to him and his team for getting world's first for HM, that's definitely something I couldn't do. But that doesn't mean he can go off and start shit talking Goth or any other streamers. First off completing NM for the first time is a lot more difficult than completing HM for the first time. Going in blind is a big challenge. Valley doesn't have the right to start trashing every other popular streamed just because his team succeeded in this one event. His entire team definitely lost alot of respect from the community for what they said, even Deej called them out for it.
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This is how I view it, he beat the raid (twice was it?) Before any other guys even beat it once, so I think he has all the room in the world to say whatever he wants, but he's just got to be able to back himself up by continuing to be twice as efficient by working twice as hard. I think the community shouldn't shame or praise him personally bc it'll just get out of hand. I myself am also a invalid source for contwnt as I don't watch either streamer, and all of my facts are basically based off of your comment.
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There's a difference between being proud of your accomplishments and obnoxiously bragging. Just because he beat HM first it doesn't mean his team shouldn't be humble. Winning graciously will get you a ton more respect than telling everyone else that you're better than them.
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Got didn't go in blind. They had others watching other streamers to give them tips on how to proceed. You can tell by watching them play through the hard mode raid. Took them an hour to beat golgoroth. I beat him today first try.
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Edited by williamofficial: 10/24/2015 4:26:13 AMI'm not saying Goth and his team did everything on their own, honestly I don't give a shit how they did it. I don't care if the worlds first team cheesed there way to victory, that still doesn't mean Valley gets to go off talking shit about other streamers. Winning graciously is the only thing that'll get respect.
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Why can't they? Is there some hidden rule saying people can't run their mouths?
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I'm not saying they can't, just that they shouldn't and they're losing alot of respect for doing so. There is no official rule that says you can't be a dick, but you still shouldn't try to be one.
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-blam!- goth. No one cares. Quit white knighting a grown man that plays a videogame for a living.
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I'm not defending Goth, I've never been a fan of him as a streamer. I'm just saying that Valleyram had no right to start dissing other streamers, I only mentioned Goth because he was the main guy Valley was talking about.
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Why didn't he have a right?
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Just because you get world's first doesn't mean you can start talking shit about everyone. Valley and his group were acting like elitists, just because they got first in HM. That's literally it, besides that they haven't done anything noteworthy. And on top of that, its just not classy. Be gracious win or loss, they are losing a ton of respect for this shit.
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Eh your getting too involved in something so meaningless. He has every right to say what he wants right or wrong
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You can talk shit about anyone regardless if you do something first. Why do you keep saying he can't or doesn't have the right?
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He's being an asshole, and he's losing alot of respect talking so much shit. I don't mean to say he can't, just that he shouldn't.
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Thanks
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What did deej say
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https://twitter.com/DeeJ_BNG/status/657622822542413824