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Edited by ounslowe:
10/24/2015 4:38:27 AM
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Does ValleyRam deserve the hate he's getting?
Well personally I really don't know wether or not he deserves it, how bout you guys?
Edit: For those of you who are unaware who i am talking about. ValleyRam was part of the fire team that beat Kings Fall hard raid first. Now, I wasn't in the second the kill happened, but what happened afterwards was that he apparently kept trash talking all other twitch streamers. Don't take my word for it, but thats what I can infer from the chat and replays on what happen. He "called" out Gothalion specifically, with the exact details unknown to me. Just editing to clarify some confusion amongst some of you.
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People are so jelly that's all!
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The way I see it....if you're gonna talk shit, you better be ready to have it thrown back at you.
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A bit of spice is good, makes people step up their game, I think it's good that bungie's golden children didn't come first..
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I don't know all the facts only second hand accounts, which if you have ever played the game telephone you know aren't the most accurate. So it is hard to say for certain if he does or not. Until I can see a video of the streams I can't say definitively because when being told both sides of a story the truth is usually somewhere in the middle. If that is the case be mad at the guy but put away the pitchforks people. If it is as bad as some of the stuff I have heard than yeah the guy acted like a douche. Act like a douche and you will be treated poorly by people and receive alot of hate, and deservedly imo. My dad used to tell me, "son there are consequences to all your actions, and if you aren't willing to deal with those consequences like a man, respectfully and with some dignity. Than don't do whatever it is, don't say that mean thing, don't lash out and hit that person, because if you do the consequences of those actions are nobodies fault but your own." I used to get in trouble alot and would get mad at my punishments as a kid so I heard that from him alot lol.
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He beat it first so he has room to talk, but he was only reacting to viewers giving him severe HATE. Many of you may be saying "oh, he should've been ready for that many viewers and the hate," but if you go from 200 to 2,000 people in a matter of minutes, things get hectic, especially if it's not something that you typically do. It may be easy to stand up in front of your classroom and speak, but it's different when your in front of the whole school, you say things you don't mean, and you mean things you don't say.
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3 RepliesWho the hell is Valleyram and why should I care?
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So I just watched his stream in past broadcasts and I did skip around but watched a good portion after he beat it the first and even second time before goths team beat it even once (kinda hilarious you gotta admit) and I gotta say he didn't brag that much or talk too much shit... No more than the average forum d bag at least... Probably better than half of you if you got world first... Hell I'd be laughing my ass off. No joke I got to oryx as probably one of the first groups to reach him today with all randoms (not saying it's impressive cuz then we got stuck at oryx for way too long and it went to shit) but let's just say my random group had won out of some miracle fluke... We would have bragged our asses of like some shit lmao
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16 RepliesKudos to him and his team for getting world's first for HM, that's definitely something I couldn't do. But that doesn't mean he can go off and start shit talking Goth or any other streamers. First off completing NM for the first time is a lot more difficult than completing HM for the first time. Going in blind is a big challenge. Valley doesn't have the right to start trashing every other popular streamed just because his team succeeded in this one event. His entire team definitely lost alot of respect from the community for what they said, even Deej called them out for it.
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2 RepliesGood job on world's first, but the behavior afterwards was unnecessary.
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What did he do?
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Can I ask. Who the hell is that
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Who the -blam!- is he?
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1 ReplyEdited by What I Look Like: 10/24/2015 3:26:13 AMNo need to condone childishness in the adult world, only makes people like him that much more confident about themselves. Do we really need that, as a people? To be so quick to put others down? Lol I mean... what if his wifi cut off mid stream? He would be f[b]u[/b]cked. People tend to overlook all the facts in favor of the story that gives them the most light. We shouldn't need that kind of light. We are supposed to be Guardians.
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Until either one beats a launch raid with a LFG team day one, I won't be impressed. They can both talk all the shit in the world to each other, doesn't effect me.
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Kind of proud to say, i have no fcuking idea who this guy is, or any streamer for that matter, and lastly, so proud that I've never wasted my time literally watching someone else play a videogame online....like for real yo, that shit is lame as hell lol
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People went into his chat and picked on him. He said some stuff in retaliation that he shouldn't have but does not deserve so much hate.
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Who cares, lol? It's a game. This goes to both sides.
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I do find it pathetic how people take sides and try to defend. Even Deej's tweet was silly. Both Ram ang Goth are gron men. Both in their 30s ffs. Let them have their beef and handle it themselves. And before anybody tries sticking up for either one of them just know that Goth is passive aggresive and Ram is rude. So they both are to blame.
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I mean considering how Goth and Broman got their World's first for normal mode...
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He was talking shit on them because some of the larger streamers fans got onto his stream and started shit talking him, and using racial slurs.
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Edited by lmSuperBad: 10/24/2015 4:14:09 AMNvm...
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Okay everyone let's step back and remember there is a real world too not just destiny lol.
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45 RepliesI was on the raid team and was there when everything happened. As we beat the raid a flood of people started to come into the chat and started talking trash ( which is expected ) and as people started to come in he reacted. Honestly, he's not a bad guy.. Been there for the hundreds upon hundreds of raid carries he's done. I was actually a viewer in his stream that was looking for raid help and ended up being apart of his clan. Honestly going from a stream of 20 people to about 2,000+ in a matter of minutes could do a lot of things to anyone. There were some congrats but also a ton of hate. Being attacked by all those people caused him to react. While running the raid with the low amount of viewers he had there was nothing but silly banter, jokes, and great communication, but no one will see that because of this drama which is the bad part. It was a fun raid and I enjoyed the experience. Bungie did a great job in making adjustments to the raid at hectic moments that would catch anyone off guard. Good communication and call outs got us through it and I'm sure the ones who haven't beaten it yet can do the same.
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