Thats not how sunbreaker works? It lasts 20 seconds if you dont throw hammers. If you spam hammers start to finish youll only throw 4-5 at max, depending on your perks. With forgemaster you could probably throw 6-7. Its not unlimited hammers for 20 seconds

You do realize you can shut down a SunBreaker Titan With ShadowShot pretty easily.

It's a game stop crying

Im that guy that plays defender in pvp

Na na na na na na na BATMAN!!

Dude you are bad player then don't play pvp and job is done

I love how for months people bitched and moaned about Sunsingers and Bladedancers. Finally, the Titan has his due. Eat some hammers bitch!

Let's look at the sun breaker subclass Melee: shit in pvp, worst their is Grenades: complete shit in pvp Perks:all help out super, besides the one that gives you health back (only works if u get a kill with the shittiest grenade or melee) Still no blink The super: slower movement, hammers have travel time, fleet fire is a perk, sunspots are a perk, very clear and LOUD audio when activated. So let's take a look at trials of Osiris: worst grenade, worst melee, great super, but very clear audio, 3 sniper shots will kill a sunbreaker (no insane movements like blade dancer), travel time, golden gun is a great counter. TLDR: Sunbreaker has bad perks that only help super in pvp, sunbreaker has the worst grenades and melee in pvp, it has very clear audio when activated. Nerfing it in crucible, will destroy it in trials of Osiris. People who work together will easily destroy you.

fuсk you. We are the master race

This is hilarious! I destroyed so many sunbreakers yesterday in mayhem it was amazing. Defender is the true mvp class in mayhem. I deactivated 2 hammers at the same time once, then killed them both.

Not my post, but you people need facts ;ere are some numbers for you all courtesy of DTR's community statistics Edit: I find it hilarious that people are attacking my personally for these stats. If any of you had half a brain and bothered to read you would realize these are NOT my stats. I also didn't realize this forum suddenly became somewhere that requires perfect statistical presentation. Super kills (PVP) Hunter Nightstalker 54,549,041 (4.90%) Titan Sunbreaker 30,933,744 (2.78%) Warlock Stormcaller 28,664,865 (2.58%) Grenade kills (PVP) Hunter Nightstalker 31,135,311 (4.11%) Warlock Stormcaller 26,611,954 (3.51%) Titan Sunbreaker 16,019,668 (2.11%) Melee kills (PVP) Warlock Stormcaller 38,775,697 (3.16%) Hunter Nightstalker 32,853,317 (2.68%) Titan Sunbreaker 29,285,716 (2.39%) Sooooooo. You were saying how sunbreakers get sooooooooo many kills with their overpowered hammers yet they still have less super kill then the hunter SUPPORT class. Edit 1. Class breakdown 33.5% warlock with 3% being stormcaller 32.3% titan with 3% being sunbreaker 34.2% hunter with 4% being nightstalker These are updated every 15 minutes by destiny tracker. I didn't collect these. The low percentage is because the subclass percentage is based upon what percentage of tracked games they have been in. Edit 2: actual numbers for classes for you Warlock 1,854,319 Titan 1,786,529 Hunter 1,890,494 source: http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population Edit 3: here are the stats for all subclasses. These have been updated so the numbers should be different from the ones above Super kills (PVP) Hunter Bladedancer 201,044,918 (18.06%) Hunter Gunslinger 199,808,670 (17.95%) Titan Striker 186,291,620 (16.73%) Warlock Sunsinger 152,393,823 (13.69%) Warlock Voidwalker 131,789,812 (11.84%) Titan Defender 124,945,236 (11.22%) Hunter Nightstalker 55,925,202 (5.02%) Titan Sunbreaker 31,783,917 (2.85%) Warlock Stormcaller 29,448,846 (2.64%) Grenades: Warlock Sunsinger 174,401,439 (22.98%) Hunter Bladedancer 121,434,967 (16.00%) Hunter Gunslinger 114,520,912 (15.09%) Warlock Voidwalker 108,105,902 (14.24%) Titan Striker 94,212,758 (12.41%) Titan Defender 70,645,856 (9.31%) Hunter Nightstalker 31,920,719 (4.21%) Warlock Stormcaller 27,326,515 (3.60%) Titan Sunbreaker 16,443,142 (2.17%) Melee: Warlock Sunsinger 284,839,168 (23.19%) Titan Striker 203,237,949 (16.55%) Warlock Voidwalker 177,393,092 (14.44%) Hunter Bladedancer 170,332,624 (13.87%) Titan Defender 153,350,640 (12.49%) Hunter Gunslinger 135,263,513 (11.01%) Warlock Stormcaller 39,855,529 (3.25%) Hunter Nightstalker 33,721,785 (2.75%) Titan Sunbreaker 30,104,721 (2.45%) Edit: [quote]Okay, it seems there's way to many people sticking to the argument, There are more Hunters than Warlocks/Titans therefore they're are going to have more kills. If you agree, then this is for you. These stats were derived from a sizable portion of the population using the most recent statistic. 5.54 million games played as a specific subclass total. Hunter 1,894,406 Warlock 1,858,093 Titan 1,790,357 4% of Titans' and Warlocks' tracked games were played as Sunbreakers and Stormcallers. 5% of the Hunters' tracked games were played as Nightstalkers. Those of you with even a little bit of background in math already start to see a problem here ;) We can conclude that: 92524 games were played as a Nightstalker 75619 games were played as a Stormcaller 71461 games were played as a Sunbreaker And now to put everything on an equal playing field. Super Kills Avg per: Nightstalker - 619 Sunbreaker - 474 Stormcaller - 419 Melee Kills Avg per: Stormcaller - 566 Sunbreaker - 448 Nightstalker - 375 Grenade Kill Avg per: Stormcaller - 387 Nightstalker - 354 Sunbreaker - 245 Total Kills Avg per: Stormcaller - 1372 Nightstalker - 1348 Sunbreaker - 1167 Hmm, would you look a that. Seems like it wouldn't matter if there was an equal amount of Hunters, Warlocks and Titans. Hunters and Warlocks would be neck and neck yet Titans would still come in dead last. I wonder how such an OP subclass ends up with the least amount of kill

are you dumb warlocks have been pretty balanced hunters not so much but not to op imo titans well who cares if they op you make it sound like they get insta supers 24/7

it's called SUPER 4 a reason :)

Bad at game stupid and complaining terrible person

Checks profile Op only has 300 kills on his titan... Do people realize that the hammer doesn't work like golden gun? when you shoot a hammer it removes a chunk of the super!! It's not 15 seconds and take as long as you want like golden gun, if you wait to long to throw a hammer you basically loose minimum one hammer every 3-4 seconds

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Yey now the titan class is the best on pvp and pve.. They need to tone it down... honestly

You haven't even unlocked sunbreaker yet. Unlock it then see how useless the hammers are in pve (imo anyway) the only good part is melting point

Good God the whiners need to go!!

Looks like someone's jealous...

Defending warlocks is fine but you shouldn't defend hunters. Year 1 hunters acted like pure a$$hats.They even tried to get fireborn nerfed because they felt useless in pve.Look at the hunter comments now trying to target sunsinger because they feel useful now...lol

Seems like you're a blink shotgun type of guy, according to your DTR. Sorry.