Never have I played a game that removed content and put it all behind a paywall. This is a new low in the video game industry, and Activision and Bungie should be ashamed of themselves. I can no longer play the only things I enjoyed in the game, as they were all taken away.
I was thinking about buying TTK, but couldn't afford it just yet. So, I figured I would just do weeklies, play control, do some higher level strike playlists, and maybe some Iron Banner when it drops. Well, can't do any of that now. As a result of this under-handed business tactic, I will not be purchasing TTK, as I cannot support developers who treat their customers this way.
Now, before your even mention the EULA, know that there are consumer protection laws for some people, that prevent anyone from agreeing to an unfair contract, even if they previously accepted this agreement. And, I believe they are in violation of these LAWS, which the EULA is not.
*EDIT: for those interested, I have filed formal complaints with the BBB, as well as the Washington State Attorney General's Office Consumer Protection Division. I guess we will see just how far Bungie is legally allowed to take things, and if they are legally in the wrong.
As consumers, it is our right to complain of injustices, regardless of EULA's. Anyone refuting this fact is nothing short of ignorant. Now we will see what the law has to say.
*Edit: it's amazing how toxic this community is. It seems there is no camaraderie in this community, and people just resort to personal attacks at the first sign of someone having a different opinion, or a genuine issue with the product. Bungie, in my opinion, made a shitty decision, and showed they don't care for anyone who does not purchase TTK, and all the fanboy's can't see past their blind love for the game.
So I pose a question to everyone. Ignoring the EULA, what do you think of the way Bungie has handled this expansion roll-out with regards to those that have not purchased it? Put yourselves in their shoes, and give an honest answer.
*Edit: For those that care, the BBB complaint has been processed, and Activision has until October 02, 2015 to respond. Apparently hundreds of people have filed complaints against Activision for various games, with amicable resolutions. There is hope.
*Edit: just to clear a misunderstanding. I own the game and the first 2 expansions. I paid over $100 for all that just like everyone else. I don't want anything for free. I just want what I have always had... What everyone always had.
*Edit: So, Activision responded to my complaint, and had the following to say:
[quote]I understand your frustrations, I have dealt with other cases similar to yours. Unfortunately we are not in a situation to provide refunds or compensation. Unfortunately the only thing I am capable of doing for you is to pass along any feedback you might have. I do not know if this policy will change in the future. If there was more I could do, I would do it with no questions asked. For now if you have any more feedback please feel free to update this case along with your Gamertag/PSN ID. Thank you for your time and have a good day.[/quote]
They assume that all I want is money. I just want the features back. I already responded to them, and the BBB case. It seems Activision really doesn't care to solve the issue... big surprise there.
*Edit: For those that have not seen this. If Bungie is forced to do this, does that not mean their EULA was in violation of these customer's rights? They are forced to right a wrong, and have been given a reasonable window in which to address it. And yes, they are providing storage upgrades.
[url]https://www.destinythegame.com/size-requirements[/url]
*Edit: To all those following this, I have just received a response back from the Attorney General's Office Consumer Protection Division of Washington State. They have reviewed my complaint, and deemed it appropriate to move forward. Note, this is a law office deeming this a valid complaint regarding the Consumer Protection Act. So, if they see this as a valid complaint, what right does anyone else have to label this otherwise? They know the law better than you.
*Edit: This may be my final edit. For those interested, it appears you can get a refund on your purchase by sending your disc into Activision, and requesting a refund. As per Bungie's EULA, if you do not agree with the terms therein, you are entitled to a refund. So, any guardians out there that don't agree with what happened, and would like a refund, just send your disc to Activision and request one. One final note, should you do this, Bungie will apparently delete your characters and Destiny account from their servers; you have been warned.
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Lmao you didn't file a complain no way If you did that's incredibly sad... This game works like a subscription dumbass, you pay, you get some, you pay some more, you get some more. Which is not illegal at all buddy, but I'm sure you gave some preBARs at the state law office a good laugh
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Also technically if you read their terms, we have paid for license to use the game, not the game. Nobody here owns destiny unless they own shares in Activision and bungie
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[b]I think of this game as a slimy optional yearly subscription, if you don't get the dlc your game will be obsolete Still play 30% of the original content But everything else is blocked off until you pay for the dlc (optional yearly subscription) Smart. Sleazy, but smart [/b] But nobody would have bought the game if they knew about this when they announced it so HAHAHAHA THE JOKE IS ON YOU ... And me ... And all of us :c
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You buy Netflix. You love Netflix. You watch it everyday for a year but then you discontinue your account. Why can't you continue to watch Netflix? Oh yeah you haven't purchased it.
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This isn't new for Activision lol this is what they're know for. Forcing you to spend more money
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BUTTHURT!! I Summon thee! Hear my cries!
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Once again!!!! Don't let the door hit you in the vagina on your way out!!!!!
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[quote]As I've said elsewhere, Destiny is part product and part service. Y1 players have access to all of their product (missions, strikes, raids) but have lost access to services (weekly curated playlists, crucible curated playlists, etc). In your example, it may be your lawnmower, but if you hire someone else to use your lawnmower to cut your grass, then you need to continue to pay them. Players who only purchased the base game have received a year of support.[/quote]
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Omg this is hilarious. Dude it's a video game. Maybe take this leave to go and experience the real world. Get some exercise. Meet some real people and get drunk together or something. Definitely the funniest post I've seen all day, well played
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Well of course you can't play end game content if you aren't at the end of the game. Nightfall is there for those who have finished the game and want challenges. If you don't buy TTK you will never reach end game content. Sorry but this is how it will always be.
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Oooooooooo we have a real maverick over here!
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There was no injustice done. You have no legal claim at all.
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Did u download the update 0-0 Took me 5 hours
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Well maybe you should go read the agreement that you had to accept to actually play destiny rather then just saying I agree and being done with it.
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I truly hope you don't take yourself seriously....
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Just delete your characters
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So because you can't play OLD out dated content you're not buying the NEW content? Wut?
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I would love to see some random forum person take on a multi million dollar company in the courts, it would be a massacre.
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Unfortunately this will crumble under the fact that none of us own the content on the disc, we just have a licence to play the game and that same game they have reserved the right to change what they want. You've actually agreed to this when continuing to play so they can't get in any legal trouble because it's down to the consumer to inform themselves. Don't take it the wrong way, I actually think it's shit that people who have waited or can't afford TTK no longer have access to the majority of the things in the game worth grinding for, but they got you by the balls because you agreed to potential changes on the T&C which you had to accept to continue playing.
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Your that sad to go that far as a formal complaint , but the content or play another game , destiny is a game that is always developing , you should know that. If you can't keep up with the changes then don't play it
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The law is on their side buddy. It's obvious you don't understand how software licensing works in the US.
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Oh shit.. another one of these "legal action" thread hahaha...
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You misspelled *content.
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https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Troubleshoot?oid=13464
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Or they could be charging you per month like WoW. Suck it up or quit playing.