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Edited by Coyote_x_Starrk: 9/16/2015 1:46:06 AM
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You have not had any content taken away from you so please stop saying that you have.

Before we start let me say first off I am no "Desticle" I have not bought TTK and I have no intention to do so until I see review scores and impressions that make me feel its worth my $40 purchase. So I am missing out on the new content just like you guys are. I don't drink the Kool Aid. I think that $40 for a DLC is a joke even if it is an "Expansion". I personally believe I am one of the most outspoken critics on the forums regarding TTK and its various scandals. Then why am I bothering to post this you ask? Because I believe in fairness and the ranting and raving I am seeing in thread after thread is not fair towards Bungie. It is a HUGE overreaction and the bombastic claims of being robbed of content and being scammed is just downright idiotic. [b][u]You have not had any missions, strikes, raids, or weapons taken away from you that you have purchased. You can still play all the TDB missions/strikes, HoW missions/strikes and you can certainly still play the vanilla missions/strikes. The same goes for the crucible. You still have every right to play the maps that you have already paid for in the classic playlists in the crucible. [/u][/b] The only thing you have been locked out of is new endgame content like Nightfalls, Weeklies, Raid etc etc. That is not content that you bought that is a [i]FEATURE[/i] of the game. A feature that centers [i]around [/i]the latest content. When you bought TDB you bought the strikes, missions, gear etc etc and the Nightfall then took that content and featured it every week. Now that TTK is the latest content the Nightfall now features THAT content. So no you don't get to do the Nightfall because the Nightfall features new content. Content that you have not paid for. So please stop acting as if Bungie came into your game and pulled all of the missions and gear from your bleeding fingers and pissed on your Ghost. This is how expansion based games have operated for YEARS now. The new expansion comes out with new gear, new missions, and a new level cap. That new content is then featured front and center in every way and the old content is pushed off to the side. WoW, Diablo, SWTOR etc etc have followed this design for years. This is not new and this not shocking. They did it for TDB and they did it for HoW, but they did it on a smaller scale because they were smaller packages. TTK is essentially Destiny 1 part 2. So of course its impact on the day to day functionality of the game is gonna be MUCH more noticeable and much more profound. You paid for content. You got that content. You [i]still have[/i] that content. You can still play that content. [i]Features[/i] such as the endgame activities however will always be geared toward the latest content and if you don't have that content then you obviouslly cannot participate in the features that use that new content. The same goes for the levelcap as well. You paid for the level-cap to be increased in each of the new DLC's that came out because they were TIED to that content and you need that gear in order to REACH that new cap. They have now raised it again and have tied that cap to the new gear. Gear you don't have access to because you have not paid for it yet. So of [i]COURSE[/i] the Vendors are going to be selling the latest and greatest gear. Do you honestly think that they should still be selling old level Vanilla gear like Shadow Price or The Devil You Know even though its been outclassed ages ago? I understand that you are upset that your options are limited now because the content you bought is no longer[i] featured[/i], but don't sit their and claim that it is no longer there or that you no longer have access to it. Because it is and you do.

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  • Year 1. Year 2. Wipe and reset Y1 in favor of Y2. Magic.

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    • Aren't dragon and roc strikes gone?

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      • Too much common sense, it burns!

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      • If content wasn't removed, then explain how so many are getting refunds for the dlc they purchased for this game? The only way you'd get away with that is if content was removed.

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        • Edited by Fox2quick: 9/16/2015 5:41:59 PM
          I agree although perhaps you should use "challenges" in place of "features" That said, IMO, everyone knew Destiny would last for 10 years throughout the various expansions. If you didn't want to invest in the 10 year stretch, you shouldn't have bothered with the game at all. If you bought the game and maybe the DLCs and decided you don't want to stick with it, then find another game. Not every game is meant for everyone. If you didn't enjoy it enough to move on to year 2, then there's no point in sticking around as a year 1 player anyway. As far as I'm concerned, as well as what I expected before launch, it's go all in or get out.

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        • Makes sense to me. Damn good points. I would argue to just buy the dlc. YOU CAN SHOOT LIGHTNING FROM YOUR FINGERS! This alone is worth the money in my book.

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          • Content removed? Not really. Features removed? Yes. Different things, but with the same impact on ones experience. Just my take of course.

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          • I'll answer this now, its worth $40. I am really enjoying the story.

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            • We cant do trials it will use ttk maps. Also in previous dlcs everybody could buy new vendor gear but not this one.

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              • I'll say this, this was more worth than $20 dlcs. You won't be disappointed.

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              • Its pretty solid. Depends on the value of 40 to you. But I'd say it's worthwhile and gives a lot of stuff to play and play for. Actual bosses are dropping into patrols now, the story is fantastic, new classes to play for and new gear and quests... Pretty solid.

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              • PREACH

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              • Well said.

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              • Honestly, if a player refuses to buy the expansions, why even play Destiny anymore. Any game now-a-days has DLC's. You don't buy the DLC's you are now locked out of certain activities. It's almost like a subscription base. Basically, a player paid $60 for Destiny 1 and doesn't get the expansions......you are done with this game. Move on to something new.

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                • I bet you think you're being clever and the voice of reason?.....nah,yer not.

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                • I agree with OP My tuppence worth: If you really like Destiny, enough to be playing it a year later, surely you'd want to get the DLC... Why wouldn't you *want* the DLC? Why wouldn't you want a load of new stuff to do? If you are still playing the base game a year later you can't be getting any new gear...getting a Nightfall buff with no new gear to level up...I don't get it. If you think TTK and Destiny are rubbish then you surely aren't playing the game anymore...

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                • bullshit. vanilla players CAN NOT play the strikes they could prior to dec 2014. Nor can they use other modes of play . OP is either ignorant of the facts or is just plain lying.

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                  • Bump bump. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154035560/0/0

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                  • 3 words. Terms. Of. Service. Have a read. We all agreed to them. Rightly or wrongly that's the way the cookie crumbles !!

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                    • Think and use your common sense before posting nonsense m8

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                    • They actually have us content taken away from them. But the reason why they did it is both because it would force players who want to still play destiny buy the taken king and it would get them more attention from news writers because of a new Controversy in his game (and this game is full of controversies. And you know what they say "this is no such thing as bad publicity when everyone is talking about it" And btw I don't blame them because I would do the same thing If I was in charge and I knew I could take advantage of people and get more money.

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                    • Hallelujah! Preach it preacher! In all honesty though, this is exactly how I feel (aside from me already owning TTK). All the old "content" is still there. No one came and took your precious vanilla weapons or gear from your vault it's all still there and you can still do VoG and play crucible.

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                    • Very well said! Also I'd say this dlc is worth it. I played 13 hours yesterday and still didn't manage to finish every mission/all the new quests. They did a great job adding content and did a much better job story telling

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                    • The way I look at it is, TTK and the Expansions are Destiny. Not buying the newest expansion is settling for the demo.

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                    • Edited by Benzene21: 9/16/2015 3:30:19 PM
                      You don't get it. People paid for a base game. The base game included some stuff. That's how it was advertised. Now you don't have access to that stuff if you don't buy TTK, which IMO is wrong. Now, regarding the price and content, I still don't know if it's worth $40. It does have a lot of content because it has a lot of quests (they are side-quests, not TTK main story missions), but I think it could have been much better. The main story was short, it didn't have many cut scenes and they were subpar too. If you see the trailers, that's like 95% of the cutscenes you will see. The storytelling was not that good either. TTK is still an improvement, yes, but it could have been much better, though they did a great job with the new strikes.

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                      • Crucible has Classic 6v6, 3v3, and 1v1 6v6 just has a chance at large modes 3v3 smaller modes 1v1 rumble Now, Vanguard Legacy has every strike BUT new ones, so nothing stolen there. Prison of Elders, still here... Raids, check... Yep, nothing left.

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