If you don't run one, then don't hug a tight space when you see red coming towards you on the map, [b]move back and shoot them in the face[/b]. The nerfs slashed at their range hugely, it's just that so many goddamn small maps are in the rotation. You ever see people having huge success shotgunning on first light and bastion, no. It's common sense guardians, cmon.. Edit: I'm enjoying hearing some reasonable debates and logical points for a change. Thought salty dwellers lurked in all corners of this forum..