If you don't run one, then don't hug a tight space when you see red coming towards you on the map, [b]move back and shoot them in the face[/b].
The nerfs slashed at their range hugely, it's just that so many goddamn small maps are in the rotation. You ever see people having huge success shotgunning on first light and bastion, no. It's common sense guardians, cmon..
Edit: I'm enjoying hearing some reasonable debates and logical points for a change. Thought salty dwellers lurked in all corners of this forum..
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Retarded op is retarded
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"Move back and shoot them in the face" In most of these maps, there's nowhere to move back to. Not far enough to avoid getting shotgunned anyways. They also seem to be the only weapon I can't avoid with shadestep, by the way, so it's very confusing when I die when I should be behind the shotgunner, beating them to death with my sword hilt because the "Honing the Edge" quest is the only reason I would ever play crucible.
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Bump me 2.
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I remember when all I did was run around with a shotgun.. I was new and that was the only way I could get get kills luckily I broke out of that and still not stuck in noob mode lol
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Yeah it's getting annoying. Especially when their only argument is "IT TAEKS NOE SKEL!!?!?1". However, whatever they use takes all the skill in the world.
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I love the excuse "day 1 shot kil me frum maylay range!!1!! Dat is OP" Bruh do you know what a shotgun is
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I stoped using shotguns because they felt alot worse and less effective u literally have to be in thier face to kill them like wtf
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I snipe on every map and I didn't think shotguns were op before the patch. It's all about map awareness and your build. I'm sure shotgunners hate it when they turn a corner and get sniped.
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1) The range of the shotguns wasn't nerfed "hugely" given that the people who know what they are doing are using Shot Package and not Rangefinder. 2) Yes, a big part of the problem is that maps. But it's pretty apparent their way of designing maps isn't going to change anytime soon. That's almost like someone complaining about her weight and then telling her that it's simply due to the Earth's gravity. 3) The "move back and shoot them in the face" solution simply doesn't work consistently, especially given that they've increased the TTK on most primary weapons. It's much harder to kill someone closing in than it was before 2.0. The problem with shotguns is that they are not balanced with the other special weapons. Shotguns have been a problem for a long time and the nerf wasn't really that significant. It's not just bad or average players complaining about it either. A lot of top players have also complained about it, players who actually know what they are doing.
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Yea because the other ones are obviously braindead..; When they see red on the map and the red slowly comes back.. they will run out slowly like a jack ass
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A shotgun is supposed have one shot kill look at all pvp games what do they use to do? It use like 5 to 7 feet apart kill zone with most shotgun if you think legendary are op try primary shotgun exotic they just add more range on it.
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Not only did they get nerfed in PvP, they got utterly destroyed in PvE... A 45% damage drop... Kinda made them bad again... At least there won't be anymore long range shotguns coming out... Unless you count the Chaperone... But that is an exotic... So that's OK I guess? At least it's not many pellets and only one bullet you have to dodge right?
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Here we see a wild thorn blink shotgunner, he has been very efficient at hunting his prey, the honest player. He is a very common animal.... Now his teeth are dull, and his venom weak, his speed limited like someone who skipped leg day, yet his salt remains. Shhhh wait what's it doing? He's approaching.. *swooosh* *bang* Now we have a rekt wild thorn blink shotgunner. Rekt in peace tokahontas
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So when I see red on my radar just back up and shoot, huh? Or maybe when I do that the dude will just slide out from the corner and shotgun me from 2 miles away before I can get his shield down. Shotguns are still a problem...they should not 1 shot you in the body from a certain range. It should be 2 shots always unless it's a head shot. When I use a shotgun I massacre people, when I don't it's actually challenging...I hate using shotguns because it's like I put it on easy mode(I used to use them all the time when I first started playing).