[quote]Haha! It annoys me when people are talking shit to each others classes seriously, I like to do it for a laugh to wind people up but there is genuinely people that do it seriously! Personally I think every fireteam needs a guardian of each class![/quote] I completely agree! Every fire team should have a Titan...and...one or two of those other ones, whatever they're called :P I kid I kid, but I think it mostly comes from people not playing the other classes enough. I would think shoulder charge was cheap, if I didn't remember all the times I tried to use it but it crapped out on me right before I got there or they shot gunned me. I would think novabomb is cheap, but then I remember how I've always been horrible with it even since the beta. Only super I even connected with in a visceral way was fist of panic, and that's because usually by the time I realize the whole enemy team is standing together, they probably already see me and I have no time for a novabomb. So when I get novabombed from across the map, as I lay dying, I give a little nod of respect for my killer. During the one time I attempted trials of Osiris, I remember slamming down my fist of panic onto that little bridge in the black garden, and the hunter jumped OFF THEORY CLIFF so my Shockwave missed him, somehow got back to land (may have still had his super, idk) and killed me! Later when my friend was bitching about how that bullshit team with their bullshit hunters and bullshit tactics beat us and everything was bullshit (I'm the oddball in my clan for liking pvp) I was just like, if that move wasn't skill...what is?