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9/7/2015 12:49:53 AM
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Omg. Are we going to get into a determinism vs freewill philosophical debate?
Ok...
We are faced every day with the choice to continue living or dying.
My will to live keeps me going.
My environment presents me with obstacles and challenges that I navigate at every moment with my free will.
Bungie is presenting me with an obstacle to enjoying the game Destiny. I am exercising my will to influence change in my favor by posting my feedback in this forum. Bungie can choose to read it or not, and act on it or not.
That is all that is happening here.
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Edited by ZDragonLord X: 9/7/2015 1:22:15 AMThe issue is progress. For some reason people think that progress automatically means everything stays the same but gets better. Sorry, doesn't work that way. Progress takes what is current, changes it, deletes that, and upgrades what it used to be. For example, road expansion. It hinders driving/traffic, and is annoying but people go through it anyway. They tear up the old road, put new tat and such down and make it larger. You don't have a half and half road, half old and outdated and half new and smooth. It looks lazy and crappy. Same goes with games. Very few games that continue into a second year are the exact same thing with a few new tweaks. To change this, Bungie is adding new content and leaving behind old, much like the road. People hate it in progress, hate the annoyance, but appreciate the end result the same.
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Poor analogy once again. If you want to talk roads... The proper analogy is that we have roads that define paths to and from places we need to go. Progress does not change the path, and replace it with a new route. Progress embraces the route and expands it, taking it from a dirt trail, to a gravel road, to a paved road to a multi lane road... So more and more vehicles can use the road without being mired in traffic jams. Then progress adds stops along the path... Places for food, for gas... Things to make the road more useful for us. Things to make it better. Your analogy is basically that in order to make a road better, you have to abandon it entirely and make a new road somewhere else.
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Wrong. Progress means not only change, but change for the better. Change for the sake of change isn't progress.
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[quote]Wrong. Progress means not only change, but change for the better. Change for the sake of change isn't progress.[/quote] Please show me a list of every new weapon that you confirmed to be better than the current stuff. You can't because it's not out yet. Don't insist something you have no info on. And yes, I for one am glad they don't reset everything. Destiny is one of the ~5% total console series games that allow players to do so. God, way to find the very worst in a good situation on that one.
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We've seen plenty that aren't better than the old stuff. We've seen nothing to indicate, and no reason to believe from the past, that what comes will be even as good.
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[quote]We've seen plenty that aren't better than the old stuff. We've seen nothing to indicate, and no reason to believe from the past, that what comes will be even as good.[/quote] But you still have no way to tell for sure. Swords are a thing, and Hive blades are fairly good. The few exotics they have shown have been interesting to say the least. Problem is people's standards are too high. Yeah the VOG gear kicks ass, will I be sad to see confluence go? Sure, but I'm not b*ing and whining about it.
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Yea, dude you are arguing to argue. Your points make no sense. You aren't using logic, you are twisting and creating convoluted examples to support your defensive stance. All we are saying is let us decide when we want to abandon our old favorite gear. We are saying we want to have solid proof of the "greatness" of the new stuff in our hands before we make our decision. I want to see and feel a new weapon that kicks ass over my Vex or my Thorn (and I'm not talking in PvP). Let me be the judge. I will gladly drop any old gear in favor of new if it is worthy... I do it all the time. But so far, ALL the new weapons with each expansion have been incrementally worse than those that preceded them. So based on this, I am not convinced that they will make anything as amazing or fun as say, a Vex Mythoclast... If the new gear is going to be so amazing, they shouldn't have to freeze all the older stuff... We will all naturally gravitate to the new if it clearly outshines the old. The fact that they are forcing this on us kind of days one thing... They are afraid that nothing they have made will be as good as the original stuff.
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Oh so you don't actually have anything to add but "stop complaining about things you don't like!" Got it!
