Lately, I've been seeing tons of illogical arguments that christians have been trying to use to prove the existence of God. I haven't seen one valid argument for God, and I'm getting quite tired of destroying the same feeble arguments over and over again, so I thought I'd take the most common ones and take them apart, so that you people can finally stop using them.
[quote][i]You can't prove that God isn't real. [/i][/quote]
This is a logical fallacy. The burden of proof lies on the person claiming the positive (religious people), not us. If you believe God is real, it's your job to provide evidence. Furthermore, we also can't prove that there isn't a magic green monkey flying around Jupiter, but that isn't a valid reason to believe he's there.
[quote][i]The Bible is proof of God[/i][/quote]
No. Just, no. Anyone who uses a Bible verse to support the existence of God is insane. That's like saying that a Spider-Man comic is proof of spider man.
[quote][i]Do you really think that all life could have arisen from a series of coincidences?[/i][/quote]
Anyone who says this needs to do a bit more research. Yes, there were many requirements for life to arise on earth, but you're not considering how large the universe is, and how many times shit has gone wrong. Statistically speaking, the natural evolution of life on earth is very possible, and there is almost certainly other life out there.
[quote][i]Well, science doesn't fully understand 'X' yet, therefore God must have done it.[/i][/quote]
Just because we don't understand something yet doesn't mean we won't in the future, and to instantly assume that everything is Gods work is a very closed-minded way of looking at things.
[quote][i]It's called having faith.[/i][/quote]
No. Faith is the intentional suppression of critical thinking skills. It is in no way a valid reason to believe anything.
[quote][i]The second law of thermodynamics states that systems become less and less organized. That means that evolution and the Big Bang go against this law. Therefore, God is responsible for the creation of earth and life on earth[/i][/quote]
This isn't true. The second law of thermodynamics only applies to isolated (closed) systems. The earth is in no way a closed system. This argument really just shows ignorance on whoever uses it's part.
[quote][i]Theres nothing to lose by not believing in him, and eternal paradise if you do. (Pascal's Wager).[/i][/quote]
This is a horrible argument for a number of reasons. First, who says the Christian God is real? There are hundreds of different Gods out there, so why not believe in them too, just to be safe? Secondly, do you really think an omniscient God won't figure out that the only reason you believed in him was because you wanted to go to heaven? Pascal's wagers is one of the worst arguments ever. Period.
Note: This next one was actually an argument on this very thread. Try not to die of laughter.
[quote][i]http://thetruthwins.com/archives/dna-results-for-the-nephilim-skulls-in-peru-are-in-and-the-results-are-absolutely-shocking
We have angel skulls, therefore God exists.
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This one made me laugh so hard. The link basically just says that the skulls were from an unknown human-like creature, probably some sort of primate. The guy who sent me this instantly jumped from "unknown human-like mammal" to "Angel skulls". I literally can't even right now.
These are only a few of the arguments that I can remember off the top of my head, but I know I'm missing a ton. Post them below, and I'll destroy them and add them to the OP. Help me spread education and awareness to Offtopic, one post at a time.
Purse, out.
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Can you prove that he isn't real?
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Well you DO believe a random explosion came outta nowhere and [i]created[/i] stuff So We both have our theories, let us believe them
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You sure do put effort in your b8 m8
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Edited by Mattyman1: 9/25/2015 11:37:01 PM
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The best I have is that many people simply want to believe there is a higher power. Sure upon examination most theories can be broken down and disproved, but they can't be 100% falsified because no one really knows the truth about a gods existence until death. Of course by that point it's already to late to provide a definitive answer to the world. I personally believe in God and respect your opinions on the matter, and my opinion is to live your own life and I'll live mine believing what we each choose to.
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Hey it's noiseless. How's it going my trolling lord?
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Edited by FrodoSaggins: 9/25/2015 3:59:44 AMWas going to comment, then I saw it was noiseless purse [spoiler]I still commented tho 0_0[/spoiler]
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Haha. Can't really prove His existence either way. I myself have no personal eyewitness accounts of anything miraculous nor visions nor hearing from God, all of which would be explained away as hallucinations anyway. If someone believes in God it really is because of faith. Whether it's a lack of critical thinking or whatnot that's real the only explanation, cause trying to prove the existence of God isn't going to happen. People either believe or don't believe. Simple enough, just a touchy subject.
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Completely agreed
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Well said buddy, its been awhile haha
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Who are you to say god is real or not real? You cant, you have no idea. God is all knowing, and his way of testing man's faith is to put odds against him. On the other hand, why would you believe in some absurd god in which there are 1000 different versions? It's not that I believe, it's not that I dont. I simply don't know. Part of being controversial is to keep an open mind, otherwise you are stereotyped as atheist. Which I don't believe you are.
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This thread has been around for almost 3 weeks and people are still falling for the bait.
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Would you take anecdotes of extremely impossible situations to be possible evidence of a supreme being? Or would you explain it away as luck and coincidence?
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So you don't let religion or god dictate your life? Sounds good... On a totally unrelated note, how long did it take you to make this thread?
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At least the sun's real \[T]/
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I'm calling "Newton's Flaming Laser Sword" on this.
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Of course you can't prove God exists that would defeat the pupose of faith
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Am I the only one who thinks noiselesspurse actually speaks things that make sense?
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Dull minded clueless teenager. Go soak your head and get over not having a life.
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Look at the buenos Aires miracle you will never prove that wrong
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I'm starting to hate atheist now
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Religion is man made and all in the mind
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I think you people replying to this need to understand you don't need to try and prove God is real, most of the time trying to prove he his will lead to doubt in his existence as there is very little proof. But, this is where faith comes in. Every Christian needs faith in God, mostly because you won't be able to prove he is real. You guys need to remember that having faith in Jesus Christ is one of the sole foundations of Christianity.
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"Everyone has a right to beleive what the choose to." ~Your Freindly Neighborhood Atheist.
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You pick baseless arguments from uneducated Christians to attempt to discredit educated Christians. Typical atheist.