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9/5/2015 1:03:31 AM
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[i]As I said, Force powers are irrelevant, as they wouldn't work against factions from Halo, a universe in which the Force does not exist. This is simply technology vs technology, and the Forerunners outshine everything Star Wars have to offer.
Name some of these technological terrors you claim Star Wars has. I'll then show you how the Forerunners outclass it. [/i]
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Force counts. Fake science counts then space magic also counts
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[i]Star Wars also has fake science, so it's even. The Force doesn't exist in Halo. There are no midi-chlorians to influence. The Force does not work in the Halo universe. [/i]
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By fake science I mean everything from both. To Star Wars characters midichlorines are a scientific discovery. One could argue the halo universe just isn't advanced enough to know about them. Not fighting in halo universe. Combining both fictions.
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[i]And yet, the Forerunners are Precursors are leaps and bounds more advanced than the Star Wars universe. If the Force existed, they would know. And if you really wanna go that route, it would not take long at all for the Lifeworkers to learn about the Force, discover its connection to midi-chlorians, and then do whatever they please with it. They could create a biological weapon that only targets midi-chlorians, for example. It's all a moot point, though. The Force would not be sufficient to protect the Star Wars universe from the Forerunners. Because they're not connected to the Force, the Force-sensitives would have no means of seeing their future. With the Forerunners' ability to fight things in real space while they themselves are tucked away safely in Slipspace, the Star Wars Galaxy has no defense. [/i]
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Star Wars ships are larger and more heavily shielded than forerunner who I'm pretty sure don't even have shields on all of their ships. Forerunners wouldn't have time to look into midichlorines as they be crushed, choked, electrocuted or just drained of life. Slipspace=hyperspace
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[i]The Didact's personal warship, the [/i]Mantle's Approach, [i]is more than 350 kilometers long. It's around the same size as the first Death Star. Fortress-class warships are 100 kilometers long. They dwarf every single ship in the Star Wars galaxy on a hilarious scale. And as I've said, the Forerunners are capable of hiding their ships in Slipspace, which Star Wars ships do not have the ability to enter, and attacking the Star Wars galaxy from there. Slipspace and Hyperspace are two very different things with different sets of rules. There is literally no way for the Star Wars galaxy to match the might of the Forerunner Ecumene. They can't get into Slipspace, so they have no way to fight back. Meanwhile, the Forerunners are inducing supernovae in all of the important star systems throughout the Star Wars galaxy, and no Star Wars faction has any means of stopping them. It's a curbstomp in favor of the Forerunners.[/i]
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The fact that bullets can hurt forerunner tech shows their lack of advanced armor. And where can you find these numbers on forerunner ship size?
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Edited by UnboundRelyks: 9/5/2015 6:54:57 PM[i]You can find the numbers for the Fortress-class vessels in Halo: Cryptum. The numbers for the [/i]Mantle's Approach [i]were deduced from Halo 4 gameplay. All of the info can be found on the Halo Wiki.[/i] [i]It's also worth noting that the [/i]Mantle's Approach [i]tanked several rounds from Super MAC platforms, each shell delivering more than 50 gigatons of destructive force. While the Sentinels and Prometheans have shown vulnerability to ballistic weapons, their ships are much more powerful than any ship in Star Wars. [/i] [i]Edit: None of it really matters, though. You're completely ignoring the fact that Forerunner ships can destroy stars in the Star Wars galaxy from Slipspace, where nothing in Star Wars can touch them. [/i]
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The force can find them in slipspace and eat their babies
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[i]No, it can't. The Force does not exist in Slipspace, and the Forerunners aren't connected to the Force. They can't be sensed through the Force, and they can't be defended against because Star Wars cannot enter Slipspace. [/i]
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Negating force use is a poor argument.
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[i]All you've provided have been poor arguments. Just because you don't like what I say doesn't invalidate it. The Force relies on midi-chlorians, which only exist in a symbiotic relationship with other lifeforms in the Star Wars universe. Midi-chlorians do not exist in the Halo universe, and so the Force does not exist in the Halo universe. Slipspace is exclusive to Halo, so no midi-chlorians there. Just face it, the Forerunners cannot be touched by anything from Star Wars. [/i]
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Midichlorians exist in all life forms in the starwars universe. If the two fictions merged and fought characters living in the halo universe are also considered life forms making them vulnerable to the force. This fight has no rules barred. Inhaling floods spores still causes Greedo to become a tentacle zombie but shooting lightning out of ones pinky still toasts a jackal.
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[i]Did the Yuuzan Vong suddenly get midi-chlorians when they invaded the Star Wars galaxy? No, they did not. Force sensitivity is not something you just develop. You're either born with it, or you're not. You can have connection to the Force stripped away, but you can't have it granted to you. Just give up already. Your arguments are weak and boring. Forerunners take the victory in a curbstomp. [/i]
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The Vong have midichlorians. Sith net and force lighting are function as normal and other force moves are just severely dampened. A strong force user could attempt to throw a Vong but it would just stagger them. It's more a natural resistance than an immunity.
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Edited by UnboundRelyks: 9/6/2015 8:09:12 PM[quote][i]Force sensitivity is not something you just develop. You're either born with it, or you're not. You can have connection to the Force stripped away, but you can't have it granted to you. [/i][/quote] [i]You're ignoring parts of my argument. No Forerunner was ever born with any connection to the Force. It's been said time and time again throughout Star Wars lore that Force sensitivity is not something you can acquire. You're either born with it, or you're not. The Forerunners don't magically gain a connection to the Force just because they're fighting enemies who are connected to it.[/i]
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If midichlorians are integral part of the star wars universe and would be part of the overlap just as much as slipspace would be an overlap from halo. Though no halo characters would be force sensitive they would still be surrounded by the force as it would be binding the starwars part of this hypothetical, galactic arena.
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[i]That's great and all, but here's the thing; midi-chlorians need life so they can exist. It's a symbiotic relationship between midi-chlorians and all other lifeforms in the Star Wars universe. There is nothing alive in Slipspace, so there are no midi-chlorians there. It's just an empty reality with eleven dimensions. There are no living things in there. Where there is no life, there is no Force. It's as simple as that. And as you've already admitted, Forerunners have no connection to the Force, so they're not bringing any midi-chlorians with them. Forerunners stay in Slipspace and blow up every important solar system throughout the Star Wars galaxy. With no way to stop them, the various factions within Star Wars can only wait in fear for their inevitable demise. Not a single Forerunner life is lost. [/i]
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You're making forerunners sound god-like but a human with less high tech gear and biological enhancements than a common foot soldier in the Star Wars universe is able to single-handedly thwart their nefarious schemes
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[i]Lol. No. A single Forerunner, who may or may not be completely insane, was caught off-guard by Cortana, a highly-sophisticated AI. The Didact was throwing Master Chief around like a little bitch before Cortana stepped in. Face it. Star Wars is outclassed by the Forerunners. I make them sound god-like because they are. [/i]
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They couldn't stop the flood, a glorified fungus, without wiping out there entire civilization.
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Edited by UnboundRelyks: 9/7/2015 3:25:51 PM[i]The Flood is a lot more than a glorified fungus. The Flood is the current version of the Precursor species. Add to that, the Flood's strength is directly related to the strength of its victims. The Forerunners were insanely advanced, and because of that, so were the Flood. The parasite has access to the collective knowledge of all it has infected. They are essentially omniscient. The Forerunners were also betrayed by their hyper-intelligent AI, Mendicant Bias, when he was corrupted by the Flood. He took more than half their entire fleet with him. The Forerunner-Flood War is a lot more complicated than you seem to realize. You're not even talking about Halo vs Star Wars anymore. You're talking about things that have beaten the Forerunners without any understanding as to why. Can you please give up? It's obvious that you've lost, and this is getting boring. [/i]
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I agree with the boring, this has gone on for a while and I will agree the flood are more powerful than I originally put it. They would probably give the halo universe a run for there money actually as they are an enemy designed to raise themselves to their opponents standards. Sith flood would be interesting. Seeing as this argument needs to end as neither of us will give way I will conclude that the flood vs force corruption would be a pretty even fight. Or early on in the battle the forerunners would drive their lower tier tank into fisherman's bay by activating the halo rings so no one wins.
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[i]Forerunners chill in Slipspace, casually blowing up the stars of every important solar system in the Star Wars galaxy. No Forerunner dies. You've had no rebuttal for this argument, so I'll take that to mean that you don't have a counter-argument. GG[/i]
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Forerunners can't blow up their own stars as they would lose their systems. Star Wars takes forerunner systems with little effort as the forerunners are "chilling in slipspace." They then drain forerunner resources and set up shipyards as they wait for the forerunners to make a weapon from their empty slipspace vacuum that was precise enough to not blow themselves up.
