Saying they have no logic isnt proof? Did you read your thread? You have no real evidence that they're wrong, you're just bashing their beliefs. I'll give you an example: Basing everything you believe in on a book written by people 2000 years ago is -blam!-ing crazy, if god was real why wouldn't he have made contact? If god is all powerful then why did he have to send "his only son" to die to forgive sins, why couldn't he just make it that we can be forgiven from the start of it all? Is he not all powerful? Did he not think this though? And most importantly WHERE THE -blam!- WAS THIS GOD EVERY SECOND THAT I NEEDED HIM?? EVERY TEAR I SHED! EVERY PRAYER THAT I BEGGED FOR HIS HELP! EVERYTIME THAT I WAS ALONE AND JUST NEEDED A SIGN, OR JUST TO FEEL HIS PRESENCE I FELT NOTHING! .... As you can tell if somehow we are not alone I have a beef with this "god", not because of what he has done to me, its what he didnt do when I needed him. Hes either not there or he really doesnt give a flying -blam!- about me and he really wants to watch me suffer. Thats why I know hes not real, at least not in the christian sense. Prove me wrong