1400 hours? Get outside much?

People like you with that kind of attitude is the reason why these game developers think they can treat gamers the way they do. How disapointing. If your money and time has no worth move on because others like me, my time and money clearly does.

You have over 40 days I'm game. They certainly haven't taken you for a ride and you obviously enjoy playing. Can you explain how bungie is treating you poorly?

Maybe if you took the time to read and understand his post I wouldn't have to respond to your idiotic comment. I have clearly enjoyed playing and all my hard grinding according to BUNGIE was all for nothing or should I say would be all for nothing, but you wouldn't understand any of this after your intelligent comment (Sarcasm) .

Hard grind? Everything in this game is handed out. It's a video game, you can just play to have fun... also exotics are coming with just not legendaries so your grind for those was worth it. Do you have any guns good in crucible? Those aren't useless.

Clearly you weren't there from the beginning so you are allowed to make comments like that. Yes its a video game and I should play and have fun but I should also not be exploited because of my love for gaming.

Time that is now ultimately a colossal waste? I'd reckon that would count.

[quote]Time that is now ultimately a colossal waste?[/quote] If this is your thinking then we have nothing more to talk about.

Well you clearly didn't think so when you decided it would be highly intelligent to comment in the first place. If you're going to sit there and brow beat people about their personal opinions, don't wuss out and go silent. At least have the guts to sit there and defend your point, assuming you even have one in the first place. In reality, for all you know you might ACTUALLY be wrong. But you don't exactly allow the opportunity to have your own perspective changed. I've said countless times that I welcome any who wish to try and debate what I say, because even though mine is an opinion, its backed by logical points. That is the difference between opinions and points. You want an example of backwards thinking? Re-read everything you say.

There is nothing to debate. Like you said it is your opinion. I'm telling you that if that if you think year one was a "colossal waste of time" then you just have a pathetic outlook. It's a video game and a social event. If you want to categorize it all as you getting screwed by bungie for playing a game then I feel sorry for you.

You're the one who decided to go out of their way to call the opinion of someone else idiotic and then, on top of that, make such a bold claim as though you are apparently speaking on behalf of the MAJORITY of the Destiny community. It makes you come off as uninformed, arrogant and lacking any sense of credibility in the least. 1: What does it being a video game have to do with anything? 2: EVERYTHING that is online related is considered a social event, not a good supportive point for you to bring up. 3: Explain how people did NOT get screwed by Bungie. Its real easy for you to say whatever but its another matter entirely to actually try defending your position. [b][WARNING! Malphisto Angry Rant][/b] I can very easily turn this right back around on you. I think your opinion is idiotic that you got your money's worth. I think you don't have a clue about actual value and your common sense as a consumer went out the window years ago from the sounds of it. I'd also say that the existence of individuals such as yourself are the leading cause to many problems and you will ultimately be the ones who screw up everything else because of your weak minded, complacent attitudes befitting some drug addict who is perfectly happy with being pissed on so long as they got a needle in their arm. You're also two faced, because you'll bitch and moan about how other people bitch and moan about something, and then when said something is changed you're sitting there with a stupid look on your face because you're magically right there beside them being all happy as if you had any contribution what-so-ever to said changes, when in reality you don't deserve to have any part in it. But its always "idiotic" or its always "just a game" whenever its something that doesn't impact you in the least. But the moment something happens that actually messes with you? You're right there bitching and moaning. And go ahead, I dare you to claim otherwise. If Bungie said right now that every single Exotic in the game from Year 1 was in the exact same boat as all the Legendary stuff, you'd be sitting there throwing a little temper tantrum. And yeah, I sure am lumping you in with all the other jackholes in this community who do the exact same kind of garbage because you act JUST LIKE THEM. You spout off total, baseless nonsense with no actual logic behind it just like that crap about the majority this or the majority that. Do the world a favor and unplug your internet. Spare us all from the diarrhea spewing from your keyboard.

Lol. It is just a game and everyone got their money's worth. If someone has 1000+ hours and thinks they didn't get enough out of the game they are just a greedy whiny bitch. I've got news for you. You're not an economic genius. You are just a random nobody on the internet trying to get as many bumps to your posts as you can, as if it means something.

Do you speak on behalf of the majority? Please don't say such obviously incompetent statements. I try to be nice, but sometimes comments like this reach a certain level of "uhh...?" which just perplexes and annoys. You'll notice I consistently use the word "many" which in no way is indicative or insinuating that I'm speaking on behalf of the collective whole or every single person. Show some self-restraint and kindly stop trying to harass me.

All that's is being said in the end is that the many hours of playing, grinding, etc. is of different currency to different people. Everyone is entitled to express their own opinions. It's the illogical debate that follows that is devolving. For instance, one party states essentially no one is forcing anyone else to play. Even that is an opinion. Because, there may be a self indebtedness involved because of real money being expended to purchase Destiny. For some one to throw away an investment of time is literally throwing away life in other words to some. It's not a unique perspective to troll on a differing opinion, just an immaturity incapable of thoughtful and understandable debate or conversation. The individuals not concerned with wasting time in their life are not truly living it! Both sides of this topic don't bare the same honesty in discussion and integrity. Those that value their time invested toward their own entertainment are offended by the fact that they payed to be guinea pigs. Whilst others will garner the end result for less investment. That is essentially the crux of intellectual fraud and the point that a lot of gamers are upset with in the release of TTK. After all some people are actually reimbursed for providing a service toward an end product(employee). And some aren't intelligent enough to realize they were non paid employees. Let me provide an obvious example! Someone purchases a product in full. That product is then modified without your permission after purchase. To continue to use the product that you have already paid for in full, you have to pay for it again... And then again... And then again. Not only that, during the use of said product you provide improvements which you aren't reimbursed for by the maker. It doesn't take a Nobel laureate to see the hypocrisy in this instance. I believe there is a sad disconnect of reality of the value of even playing a game. Life itself is a game if your attitude is pointed that direction. Then again some people just try so hard to be high brow trollers that they themselves don't realize they are losing the game of life themselves just to belittle a difference of opinion, even though they might have attained an efficient vocabulary. I already know I've wasted precious moments of my life in this dialogue simply because from experience most can't admit the value of intellectual diversity from their own. But, then again, a light may turn on in some!