I disagree. VoG does have some good weapons but so did Crota. Sword Breaker, Fang of Ir Yut, Song if Ir Yut, Hunger of Crota, and Black Hammer, Light of the Abyss are just as good if not better than their VoG counterparts in my opinion. HoW brought two different "Raid Weapons", PvP and PvE. Both sections have some pretty amazing guns. Tho the PvE ones are harder to get because of their random perks.