"Scout Rifles are the only weapons that can actually compete with Snipers at long range "
Have you ever played with Thorn? That competes at sniper-like ranges.
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Edited by Hawpy: 7/14/2015 2:34:52 AMAs I have said countless times already, none of the maps in any playlist except Combined Arms count as long range, most engagements are medium at best even if there is a sniper present. Thorn hits cross-map shots on small maps, try doing the same on Bastion/First Light/Skyshock and you will ultimately fail with it - at the range "sniper-like" actually is. For the record, I have played with Thorn. A lot. It was my first Exotic, and I used it when it was regarded as terrible, it still hit 2-shot kills, it still had Send It, but no one else used it. All of a sudden, it becomes OP and everyone has it. I stopped using it because of that.
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Edited by Sixclicks: 7/14/2015 3:53:49 PMI know what you mean with the long range part. That's why no one uses the high zoom scopes on snipers. Because there is no long range. Thorn was bad before because of its non damage stats. The mag size and reload were bad and stability and fire rate are lower. Now you can just rapidly fire two rounds pretty effortlessly into the enemy's head for a kill. I had it back in the beginning of the game as well, and the those bad stats are what turned people away from it.