Alright, I need to get this off my chest. Has anyone else noticed how absolutely stupid the design of many of the weapons in Destiny are? I mean who designed these things? They make no sense! The hand cannons and LMGs especially. The cylinder sits ABOVE the barrel, and the hammer sits ABOVE the cylinder on most of them. That just wouldn't work. There is no universe in which that works. And the belts on most of the LMGs feed into a chamber that is, again, physically placed ABOVE the barrel. It's just ridiculous.
I mean, did nobody at Bungie look at these and think "yeah, that's just absurd..."?
This is a REAL hand cannon. Note how the barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all perfectly aligned. This allows the weapon to function properly.
http://i.imgur.com/vMEk2qQ.png
And this is a common Destiny hand cannon. Note how the barrel sits aligned with the very bottom of the cylinder, and the hammer is aligned with the top. It makes no sense. (we won't even go into the fact that there is no way for the bullets to even leave the cylinder on most of these...)
http://i.imgur.com/XBvpTOn.png
And most Destiny revolvers are like this.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140624222458/destinypedia/images/d/d1/Regulator_Mk._43.jpg <an even worse offender considering how high the hammer sits, but I digress.
It would be one thing if this were a case of simply "whoever designed these obviously has no clue..." but then there's Hawkmoon. Hawkmoon is how ALL of them should be. Hawkmoon's barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all properly aligned. Hawkmoon is actually a realistic weapon. A skilled gunsmith could probably make a fully functional Hawkmoon that you could hold and fire, and which looks nearly identical to the in-game version.
http://i.imgur.com/Sdjmwmd.png
Now, there ARE real-world revolvers that have barrels mounted in a fashion in which the round in the bottom of the cylinder is fired instead of the top. An example of this is the Mateba auto-revolver. Though you notice on the Mateba, the hammer is also mounted lower, because it HAS to be in order to strike the rounds themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxo2cHsits
There are others as well which don't have hammers at all, and use a firing pin system instead (sort of like a Glock), which would explain how the weapons in Destiny are able to work, though not int he case of a barrel being misaligned with the cylinder. This is also unlikely because in those instances, the hammer would be superfluous. It has no purpose... which is obviously not the case in Destiny, as all of the hand cannons have hammers.
So the design of the hand cannons is completely borked in almost every instance except Hawkmoon... let's move on to LMGs.
*sigh*
http://i.imgur.com/E1l2LvT.png
So... the belt feeds rounds into the chamber which sits... ABOVE the barrel? Come on, guys!
And once again, there's ONE exotic that doesn't have this extreme design flaw.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150404021712/destinypedia/images/6/6e/Thunderlord.jpg
Which means you KNOW how it's [i]supposed[/i] to work, but 99% of them are designed in a way in which they are physically incapable of working... why?
Maybe Scout Rifles will be better?
I was surprised to find that the barrel and chamber on most of the scout rifles, auto rifles, and pulse rifles seem to be aligned relatively well. At least, they don't appear as though they'll suffer a critical malfunction the first time you attempt to fire them as the MGs and Hand Cannons do. But then I realized that the chamber, magazine, and the thumb-hole in the frame all seem to line up perfectly... meaning that the only way the rounds are making it to the chamber from the magazine is through your thumb.
http://i.imgur.com/I04X3sc.png
Am I nitpicking? Yup! Does it bother me? Yup! If you're going to design weapons... you need to either do it right, or not at all. There's no reason why a few weapons should be plausible (all gameplay mechanics aside), while the rest are so outlandishly stupid as to be visibly impossible to anyone paying attention. Get it together, Bungie!
inb4 "space magic" means these all make sense...
EDIT: You know what? I was wrong. About all of it. I'm pretty sure it all basically just works like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGPIQ72-2Vg
EDIT2: June 1st. I must say... this thread has gone on far longer than I expected it to. some may have figured it out from my replies to them or others throughout, but I never really took this topic seriously. The above was mostly meant as satire, while also inviting discussion as to the visual aspect of how the weapons in Destiny work. It has been quite entertaining, for both myself, and I'm sure quite a few others. There have been some great exchanges with others who had a sense of humor, as well as some who attempted to form an intellectual counter-argument and participate in debates. Others were less than intelligent, but I still enjoyed the replies all the same.
To anyone reading this now with the intention of commenting along the lines of "it's just a game", or "calm down", or "you're an idiot", or "it's not real!" or whatever else...
http://i.imgur.com/U7Ghu2s.gifv
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Edited by killedmehdead: 6/1/2015 1:32:32 AMChiappa Rhino... Similar to destiny... Also, some belt Feds move the round internally such as a mini gun... Anyways we are comparing real life to a video game so everything goes flitting out the window
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Your favorite, Hawkmoon, makes no sense whatsoever. The barrel is 1/3 the diameter of the cylinder, yet the cylinder holds 13 rounds. Therefore-- OP doesn't understand how firearms work.
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or how Fusion rifles have a gas tube lol you are completely right
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It does in the destiny universe
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Look at the chaippa rhino. It looks just like the hand canons in destiny.
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Everyone else is hating you, but I for one agree. The guns are messed-up by today's standards. I'm not gonna argue though because there could be something crazy in there we don't know about. I understand perfectly how guns work, but there's no reason something couldn't be different about Destiny's guns that we don't understand. You're right, though.
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It's a game no one cares
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IT'S A BLOODY GAME!!!!!!!
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Space magic that's why
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I wish shotguns had better range in destiny. IRL you don't shoot a deer from 5 feet away.
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Hawkmoon looks ok to me,
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Think about mass effect weapons. They fire bullets the size of grains of sand at super sonic speeds. With rounds that small you could feed them from anywhere. This was for the scout rifles with the oddly placed thumb hole.
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Edited by ExelArts: 6/1/2015 1:01:11 AMThis bothers me more on hand cannons more on any other gun, possibly because Bungie nerfed auto rifles making them shit and the only other guns I like using in the game are the hand cannons The rocket launcher seems front heavy, now they have more like the truth where it seems all the weight is no longer in the front
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This is a futuristic video game Not modern day
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you're lookin wayy to much into this, its a fantasy sci-fi game, posting all that to just get hate like what was the point kid, get a life srsly, and yes i wasted my time replying buttt guess we're both at fault then lolol xD woo
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The traveller makes all things possible
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I was incensed when I saw the length of the barrel on the mythoclast in this game. NO real life mythoclast would be able to function with a barrel that length. Sort your shit out bungie
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Future ? Can you tell what technology the future has ? .... No so don't compare modern weapons ... Nice try champ , but nice presentation
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Anyone else feel like some of these weapons were designed with secondary functions in mind? I remember seeing one scout rifle that had the barrel on top but then had an even larger bore on the bottom as if it could be used as a shotgun.
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Its a -blam!-ing game! They can have the clip up your ass if they wanted...
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Long ass statement < space magic Git gud
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Who really cares man?
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But this is a game.. Not a life simulator. Its a sci-fi game, not a life simulator. Anything can happen in games....
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I say borked to (saying broke broken ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°))
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I like watching people who have never shot a gun in real life pretend to shoot a gun in a movie. It's like what we did as kids but they never figured out how it actually works irl
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It's a ga- You know what, never mind