Alright, I need to get this off my chest. Has anyone else noticed how absolutely stupid the design of many of the weapons in Destiny are? I mean who designed these things? They make no sense! The hand cannons and LMGs especially. The cylinder sits ABOVE the barrel, and the hammer sits ABOVE the cylinder on most of them. That just wouldn't work. There is no universe in which that works. And the belts on most of the LMGs feed into a chamber that is, again, physically placed ABOVE the barrel. It's just ridiculous.
I mean, did nobody at Bungie look at these and think "yeah, that's just absurd..."?
This is a REAL hand cannon. Note how the barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all perfectly aligned. This allows the weapon to function properly.
http://i.imgur.com/vMEk2qQ.png
And this is a common Destiny hand cannon. Note how the barrel sits aligned with the very bottom of the cylinder, and the hammer is aligned with the top. It makes no sense. (we won't even go into the fact that there is no way for the bullets to even leave the cylinder on most of these...)
http://i.imgur.com/XBvpTOn.png
And most Destiny revolvers are like this.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140624222458/destinypedia/images/d/d1/Regulator_Mk._43.jpg <an even worse offender considering how high the hammer sits, but I digress.
It would be one thing if this were a case of simply "whoever designed these obviously has no clue..." but then there's Hawkmoon. Hawkmoon is how ALL of them should be. Hawkmoon's barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all properly aligned. Hawkmoon is actually a realistic weapon. A skilled gunsmith could probably make a fully functional Hawkmoon that you could hold and fire, and which looks nearly identical to the in-game version.
http://i.imgur.com/Sdjmwmd.png
Now, there ARE real-world revolvers that have barrels mounted in a fashion in which the round in the bottom of the cylinder is fired instead of the top. An example of this is the Mateba auto-revolver. Though you notice on the Mateba, the hammer is also mounted lower, because it HAS to be in order to strike the rounds themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxo2cHsits
There are others as well which don't have hammers at all, and use a firing pin system instead (sort of like a Glock), which would explain how the weapons in Destiny are able to work, though not int he case of a barrel being misaligned with the cylinder. This is also unlikely because in those instances, the hammer would be superfluous. It has no purpose... which is obviously not the case in Destiny, as all of the hand cannons have hammers.
So the design of the hand cannons is completely borked in almost every instance except Hawkmoon... let's move on to LMGs.
*sigh*
http://i.imgur.com/E1l2LvT.png
So... the belt feeds rounds into the chamber which sits... ABOVE the barrel? Come on, guys!
And once again, there's ONE exotic that doesn't have this extreme design flaw.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150404021712/destinypedia/images/6/6e/Thunderlord.jpg
Which means you KNOW how it's [i]supposed[/i] to work, but 99% of them are designed in a way in which they are physically incapable of working... why?
Maybe Scout Rifles will be better?
I was surprised to find that the barrel and chamber on most of the scout rifles, auto rifles, and pulse rifles seem to be aligned relatively well. At least, they don't appear as though they'll suffer a critical malfunction the first time you attempt to fire them as the MGs and Hand Cannons do. But then I realized that the chamber, magazine, and the thumb-hole in the frame all seem to line up perfectly... meaning that the only way the rounds are making it to the chamber from the magazine is through your thumb.
http://i.imgur.com/I04X3sc.png
Am I nitpicking? Yup! Does it bother me? Yup! If you're going to design weapons... you need to either do it right, or not at all. There's no reason why a few weapons should be plausible (all gameplay mechanics aside), while the rest are so outlandishly stupid as to be visibly impossible to anyone paying attention. Get it together, Bungie!
inb4 "space magic" means these all make sense...
EDIT: You know what? I was wrong. About all of it. I'm pretty sure it all basically just works like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGPIQ72-2Vg
EDIT2: June 1st. I must say... this thread has gone on far longer than I expected it to. some may have figured it out from my replies to them or others throughout, but I never really took this topic seriously. The above was mostly meant as satire, while also inviting discussion as to the visual aspect of how the weapons in Destiny work. It has been quite entertaining, for both myself, and I'm sure quite a few others. There have been some great exchanges with others who had a sense of humor, as well as some who attempted to form an intellectual counter-argument and participate in debates. Others were less than intelligent, but I still enjoyed the replies all the same.
To anyone reading this now with the intention of commenting along the lines of "it's just a game", or "calm down", or "you're an idiot", or "it's not real!" or whatever else...
http://i.imgur.com/U7Ghu2s.gifv
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This topic pops up every now and then. Without reading comments this time, I can tell you that people really don't care.
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Shot in the dark, in the future they found a more efficient way to make guns. Most of the guns don't even shot traditional bullets, but a kind of energy shot.
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Poor basturd, you never stood a chance
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I don't see an issue..
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I totally agree bungie needs to get there shit together and make these guns from years and years in the future look realistic bungie scrubs
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glimmer ammo = everything works xD
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While I honestly think the OP is a little too concerned with the weapon designs at this point, I'll also be honest and admit that he does technically have a point. However, this really isn't something new in terms of bad designs for Bungie, as there were a few things in the Halo universe that made no sense in terms of design, an example of which was the Military Police helmet in Reach that had the visor situated way too low for the wearer to actually look out through. Thus, my advice would be to let it go, because if you focused on bad designs, all of Bungie's games would have something to annoy you about.
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I've questioned the scout rifle thing before myself, it makes no sense
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ITT: Desticles defending Bungie again
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Go back to your stupid CoD franchise that takes no skill to play whatsoever with it's SEMI- realistic guns but oh wait that series has gone to the future as well, looks like your screwed dude
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Good points. The gravity thing bugs me more...but oh well it is just a fun game...
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As it appears that only guardians fire these weapons it could be that they are more akin to "magic/psychic bullets", a gift if the Traveler. Excellent job on the post. Very informative.
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I had no clue LMGs were in this game.
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You clearly have no idea how imagination and make believe works
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We shoot aliens mate. Who cares
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You realize we are in the future by a lot right?
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You got to much time son
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Next up, OP will make a post explaining why the Ships are not realistic!
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Chill.
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You want realistic weaponry, plenty of games cater to that. I do find it kinda funny that you wrote all that, then defeated your own argument in one sentence. Stellar work.
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Space magic.
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You know we are playing a video game right. In the future were there is space magic? The moon has gravity and aliens exist. Does any of that realistic to you? Enjoy the game and don't over think it.
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You should probably look up a chiappa rhino.
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Edited by doolmau5: 5/25/2015 1:40:26 PMIts well in the future and its a -blam!-ing console game jesus christ we need to banish this fool forever.
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In a place where you have time travelling robots, does it really matter how guns are designed?
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Notice how we are about 700 years into the future...for LMG's they must have found a way to let the bullets go down into the chamber. And for Handcannons..have you ever seen the Chiappa Rhino??