Alright, I need to get this off my chest. Has anyone else noticed how absolutely stupid the design of many of the weapons in Destiny are? I mean who designed these things? They make no sense! The hand cannons and LMGs especially. The cylinder sits ABOVE the barrel, and the hammer sits ABOVE the cylinder on most of them. That just wouldn't work. There is no universe in which that works. And the belts on most of the LMGs feed into a chamber that is, again, physically placed ABOVE the barrel. It's just ridiculous.
I mean, did nobody at Bungie look at these and think "yeah, that's just absurd..."?
This is a REAL hand cannon. Note how the barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all perfectly aligned. This allows the weapon to function properly.
http://i.imgur.com/vMEk2qQ.png
And this is a common Destiny hand cannon. Note how the barrel sits aligned with the very bottom of the cylinder, and the hammer is aligned with the top. It makes no sense. (we won't even go into the fact that there is no way for the bullets to even leave the cylinder on most of these...)
http://i.imgur.com/XBvpTOn.png
And most Destiny revolvers are like this.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140624222458/destinypedia/images/d/d1/Regulator_Mk._43.jpg <an even worse offender considering how high the hammer sits, but I digress.
It would be one thing if this were a case of simply "whoever designed these obviously has no clue..." but then there's Hawkmoon. Hawkmoon is how ALL of them should be. Hawkmoon's barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all properly aligned. Hawkmoon is actually a realistic weapon. A skilled gunsmith could probably make a fully functional Hawkmoon that you could hold and fire, and which looks nearly identical to the in-game version.
http://i.imgur.com/Sdjmwmd.png
Now, there ARE real-world revolvers that have barrels mounted in a fashion in which the round in the bottom of the cylinder is fired instead of the top. An example of this is the Mateba auto-revolver. Though you notice on the Mateba, the hammer is also mounted lower, because it HAS to be in order to strike the rounds themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxo2cHsits
There are others as well which don't have hammers at all, and use a firing pin system instead (sort of like a Glock), which would explain how the weapons in Destiny are able to work, though not int he case of a barrel being misaligned with the cylinder. This is also unlikely because in those instances, the hammer would be superfluous. It has no purpose... which is obviously not the case in Destiny, as all of the hand cannons have hammers.
So the design of the hand cannons is completely borked in almost every instance except Hawkmoon... let's move on to LMGs.
*sigh*
http://i.imgur.com/E1l2LvT.png
So... the belt feeds rounds into the chamber which sits... ABOVE the barrel? Come on, guys!
And once again, there's ONE exotic that doesn't have this extreme design flaw.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150404021712/destinypedia/images/6/6e/Thunderlord.jpg
Which means you KNOW how it's [i]supposed[/i] to work, but 99% of them are designed in a way in which they are physically incapable of working... why?
Maybe Scout Rifles will be better?
I was surprised to find that the barrel and chamber on most of the scout rifles, auto rifles, and pulse rifles seem to be aligned relatively well. At least, they don't appear as though they'll suffer a critical malfunction the first time you attempt to fire them as the MGs and Hand Cannons do. But then I realized that the chamber, magazine, and the thumb-hole in the frame all seem to line up perfectly... meaning that the only way the rounds are making it to the chamber from the magazine is through your thumb.
http://i.imgur.com/I04X3sc.png
Am I nitpicking? Yup! Does it bother me? Yup! If you're going to design weapons... you need to either do it right, or not at all. There's no reason why a few weapons should be plausible (all gameplay mechanics aside), while the rest are so outlandishly stupid as to be visibly impossible to anyone paying attention. Get it together, Bungie!
inb4 "space magic" means these all make sense...
EDIT: You know what? I was wrong. About all of it. I'm pretty sure it all basically just works like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGPIQ72-2Vg
EDIT2: June 1st. I must say... this thread has gone on far longer than I expected it to. some may have figured it out from my replies to them or others throughout, but I never really took this topic seriously. The above was mostly meant as satire, while also inviting discussion as to the visual aspect of how the weapons in Destiny work. It has been quite entertaining, for both myself, and I'm sure quite a few others. There have been some great exchanges with others who had a sense of humor, as well as some who attempted to form an intellectual counter-argument and participate in debates. Others were less than intelligent, but I still enjoyed the replies all the same.
To anyone reading this now with the intention of commenting along the lines of "it's just a game", or "calm down", or "you're an idiot", or "it's not real!" or whatever else...
http://i.imgur.com/U7Ghu2s.gifv
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Kind of a long post about it, but good eye brother.
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Sorry but there are revolvers where the barrel sits lower than the hammer. The Chiappa Rhino is such a weapon.
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ITS. A GAME!
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They are liberals, it's normal. And for anyone that gets their panties twisted, it's just a joke, laugh it off.
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This is now about pizza! What do you like on your pizza?
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You realize that there is space magic in this game right? Space magic. And you nitpick over the design of futuristic weapons?
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Wow really. That upsets u? It's a Sci fi game about guns in the future.
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You must be retarded. ITS A GAME
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That's why Hawkmoon is da bes.
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How bout get over it dude, it's a video game, one that is in no way meant to be realistic at all. It's like your logic is "ya I accept that we can now occupy any planet in the entire solar system and one random guy somehow made it all possible and all these alien guys are flying around fighting with each other and these weird robot things can travel through time but we can somehow kill them anyways, that all makes sense but OMG THE GUN DESIGN IS SO UNREALISTIC"
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[i]Jumping around at normal gravity on a lush [b]Venus[/b][/i] [i]Man, these revolvers are unrealistic![/i]
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OP doesn't know how Space Magic works.
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I've had the same issue with guns, it takes away from the immersion.
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Agreed
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Edited by bumbick: 5/25/2015 2:35:25 PMGolden age technology, man.
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The new faction scout rifles are even worse.
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I really can't take you seriously when you say "bullets". Rounds... Not bullets.
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One thing I've noticed about the speed load cylinders (which are present on just about every HC in destiny) don't have individual bullets, and the receiver is hollowed out. No, it doesn't justify much, but it [i]could[/i] explain why the hammer can be aligned with the cylinder and not the barrel.
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I'm going to point out one thing for machine guns. When the belt is fed the round is pushed down into the chamber and fired. It doesn't stay at the height the belt is fed.
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Jesus Christ the OP is pathetic. Never seen so much work put into a complain post. This is what the complainers are reduced to.
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Well in a alternative universe the designs do work and you are complimenting bungie on these designs rather then complaining. Ha
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Well first off you will notice that the chamber doesn't actually have any bullets in it. It's more likely that it has an energy cartridge and happens to be designed like an old school revolver for nostalgia purposes. Almost all of the weapons fire some sort of energy vs actual bullets. Either way I guess an advanced civilization that has mastered space flight and the ability to deconstruct and reconstruct physical items wouldn't be able to create a weapon that differs from those used before the golden age.
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OP fails to get this is a video game lel
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Have you seen the Chiappa rhino check it out. Real life gun with a barrel under the cylinder but the hammer looks to be above.
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It's a game set far in the future.... Who gives a flying f***?
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This topic pops up every now and then. Without reading comments this time, I can tell you that people really don't care.