Alright, I need to get this off my chest. Has anyone else noticed how absolutely stupid the design of many of the weapons in Destiny are? I mean who designed these things? They make no sense! The hand cannons and LMGs especially. The cylinder sits ABOVE the barrel, and the hammer sits ABOVE the cylinder on most of them. That just wouldn't work. There is no universe in which that works. And the belts on most of the LMGs feed into a chamber that is, again, physically placed ABOVE the barrel. It's just ridiculous.
I mean, did nobody at Bungie look at these and think "yeah, that's just absurd..."?
This is a REAL hand cannon. Note how the barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all perfectly aligned. This allows the weapon to function properly.
http://i.imgur.com/vMEk2qQ.png
And this is a common Destiny hand cannon. Note how the barrel sits aligned with the very bottom of the cylinder, and the hammer is aligned with the top. It makes no sense. (we won't even go into the fact that there is no way for the bullets to even leave the cylinder on most of these...)
http://i.imgur.com/XBvpTOn.png
And most Destiny revolvers are like this.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140624222458/destinypedia/images/d/d1/Regulator_Mk._43.jpg <an even worse offender considering how high the hammer sits, but I digress.
It would be one thing if this were a case of simply "whoever designed these obviously has no clue..." but then there's Hawkmoon. Hawkmoon is how ALL of them should be. Hawkmoon's barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all properly aligned. Hawkmoon is actually a realistic weapon. A skilled gunsmith could probably make a fully functional Hawkmoon that you could hold and fire, and which looks nearly identical to the in-game version.
http://i.imgur.com/Sdjmwmd.png
Now, there ARE real-world revolvers that have barrels mounted in a fashion in which the round in the bottom of the cylinder is fired instead of the top. An example of this is the Mateba auto-revolver. Though you notice on the Mateba, the hammer is also mounted lower, because it HAS to be in order to strike the rounds themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxo2cHsits
There are others as well which don't have hammers at all, and use a firing pin system instead (sort of like a Glock), which would explain how the weapons in Destiny are able to work, though not int he case of a barrel being misaligned with the cylinder. This is also unlikely because in those instances, the hammer would be superfluous. It has no purpose... which is obviously not the case in Destiny, as all of the hand cannons have hammers.
So the design of the hand cannons is completely borked in almost every instance except Hawkmoon... let's move on to LMGs.
*sigh*
http://i.imgur.com/E1l2LvT.png
So... the belt feeds rounds into the chamber which sits... ABOVE the barrel? Come on, guys!
And once again, there's ONE exotic that doesn't have this extreme design flaw.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150404021712/destinypedia/images/6/6e/Thunderlord.jpg
Which means you KNOW how it's [i]supposed[/i] to work, but 99% of them are designed in a way in which they are physically incapable of working... why?
Maybe Scout Rifles will be better?
I was surprised to find that the barrel and chamber on most of the scout rifles, auto rifles, and pulse rifles seem to be aligned relatively well. At least, they don't appear as though they'll suffer a critical malfunction the first time you attempt to fire them as the MGs and Hand Cannons do. But then I realized that the chamber, magazine, and the thumb-hole in the frame all seem to line up perfectly... meaning that the only way the rounds are making it to the chamber from the magazine is through your thumb.
http://i.imgur.com/I04X3sc.png
Am I nitpicking? Yup! Does it bother me? Yup! If you're going to design weapons... you need to either do it right, or not at all. There's no reason why a few weapons should be plausible (all gameplay mechanics aside), while the rest are so outlandishly stupid as to be visibly impossible to anyone paying attention. Get it together, Bungie!
inb4 "space magic" means these all make sense...
EDIT: You know what? I was wrong. About all of it. I'm pretty sure it all basically just works like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGPIQ72-2Vg
EDIT2: June 1st. I must say... this thread has gone on far longer than I expected it to. some may have figured it out from my replies to them or others throughout, but I never really took this topic seriously. The above was mostly meant as satire, while also inviting discussion as to the visual aspect of how the weapons in Destiny work. It has been quite entertaining, for both myself, and I'm sure quite a few others. There have been some great exchanges with others who had a sense of humor, as well as some who attempted to form an intellectual counter-argument and participate in debates. Others were less than intelligent, but I still enjoyed the replies all the same.
To anyone reading this now with the intention of commenting along the lines of "it's just a game", or "calm down", or "you're an idiot", or "it's not real!" or whatever else...
http://i.imgur.com/U7Ghu2s.gifv
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They like firefighters?
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Um... the hammer on HC's don't fire. They sit there.
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The [url=http://i.imgur.com/I04X3sc.pngm]:head in hands:[/url] made me laugh quite a bit. Thx for the entertainment.
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Dude I'm with you. I noticed the same things esp on hand cannons... But alas it is a game so its whatever in the end lol
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It's a goddamn futuristic video game.
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I love how our characters reload hand cannons so aggressively. All they need to is press the mag release, tilt the gun back slightly, insert the magazine, then calmly press the mag back into the gun. Instead, they want to be aLL DRAMATIC AND THROW THE GUN AROUND LIKE, "DO A BARREL ROLL, HAWKMOON". [spoiler]and it still takes forever to reload [/spoiler]
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Hahaha that made me laugh. Also way to use photos from the alpha build haha
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This post gave me cancer
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Who cares?
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Get a life
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Now, you do realize this is a [i]game[/i], right?
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And how you're avatar in CoD would break their wrist with how they hold the guns. But NO ONE CARES. It's a game dude chill
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Please search: Chiappa Rhino revolver (I personally have one) Bullpup rifle M230 chain gun All explain your ignorance, which is understandable considering you're not a gun nut like myself. Knowledge is power! The things that bug me the most: Shotguns being all pump action and no matter when reloaded your character primes the chamber at the end. If the tube mag has any rounds in it, then loading it mid cycle, there is already a round in the firing chamber, so you would eject that round out of the gun. Replacing the magazine when reloading any gun, I had to learn to wait for the magazine numbers to show instead of the actual magazine to be placed in the gun. Because if you don't, you apparently take the mag back out if you reload cancel at that time. Drives me crazy. Rocket launchers. Everything. The slow reload speed on hand cannons. You have a plug, you put it in a hole. Why does that take so long? Simple answer: it's a game! Carry on the fight Guardians.
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You do notice that it's not bullets in the hand cannons right? It's a round cylinder. It's obviously space technology, that you couldn't understand, modeled after the Golden Age.
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Two things, first I like the effort that you have put into this but it's really unnecessary this is a fictional game about space magic and killing aliens, second you want some thing realistic go play arma on the PC or bf4 for console.
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Jesus Christ write a whole novel over virtual guns in a game? OP is hella fgt
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It's science.
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Space magic bro...
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Skillet98 doesn't understand how games work.
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You didn't even mention the reloads that make no sense.
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As much as I love tearing on bungie for destinys problems, it's not the most unrealistic thing in the game ;) Aliens Weapons that can teleport to you Evil murder robots A guy who speaks for a giant ball in the sky Crota doesn't just walk around and kill everyone You can't call for bomb strikes with your ship (The list goes on)
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You know, I saw the length of your post and started reading. The moment you started in about the hammer placement on hand cannons, I was done. Do a google search for the Chiappa Rhino. You don't know what you're talking about.
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Why could a bullet not come out of the hand cannons what if there was something the hammer hit and that went down to the bullet on the borrow of the cylinder
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#ItsAgame #ItsNotRealLife #chillout