Alright, I need to get this off my chest. Has anyone else noticed how absolutely stupid the design of many of the weapons in Destiny are? I mean who designed these things? They make no sense! The hand cannons and LMGs especially. The cylinder sits ABOVE the barrel, and the hammer sits ABOVE the cylinder on most of them. That just wouldn't work. There is no universe in which that works. And the belts on most of the LMGs feed into a chamber that is, again, physically placed ABOVE the barrel. It's just ridiculous.
I mean, did nobody at Bungie look at these and think "yeah, that's just absurd..."?
This is a REAL hand cannon. Note how the barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all perfectly aligned. This allows the weapon to function properly.
http://i.imgur.com/vMEk2qQ.png
And this is a common Destiny hand cannon. Note how the barrel sits aligned with the very bottom of the cylinder, and the hammer is aligned with the top. It makes no sense. (we won't even go into the fact that there is no way for the bullets to even leave the cylinder on most of these...)
http://i.imgur.com/XBvpTOn.png
And most Destiny revolvers are like this.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140624222458/destinypedia/images/d/d1/Regulator_Mk._43.jpg <an even worse offender considering how high the hammer sits, but I digress.
It would be one thing if this were a case of simply "whoever designed these obviously has no clue..." but then there's Hawkmoon. Hawkmoon is how ALL of them should be. Hawkmoon's barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all properly aligned. Hawkmoon is actually a realistic weapon. A skilled gunsmith could probably make a fully functional Hawkmoon that you could hold and fire, and which looks nearly identical to the in-game version.
http://i.imgur.com/Sdjmwmd.png
Now, there ARE real-world revolvers that have barrels mounted in a fashion in which the round in the bottom of the cylinder is fired instead of the top. An example of this is the Mateba auto-revolver. Though you notice on the Mateba, the hammer is also mounted lower, because it HAS to be in order to strike the rounds themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxo2cHsits
There are others as well which don't have hammers at all, and use a firing pin system instead (sort of like a Glock), which would explain how the weapons in Destiny are able to work, though not int he case of a barrel being misaligned with the cylinder. This is also unlikely because in those instances, the hammer would be superfluous. It has no purpose... which is obviously not the case in Destiny, as all of the hand cannons have hammers.
So the design of the hand cannons is completely borked in almost every instance except Hawkmoon... let's move on to LMGs.
*sigh*
http://i.imgur.com/E1l2LvT.png
So... the belt feeds rounds into the chamber which sits... ABOVE the barrel? Come on, guys!
And once again, there's ONE exotic that doesn't have this extreme design flaw.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150404021712/destinypedia/images/6/6e/Thunderlord.jpg
Which means you KNOW how it's [i]supposed[/i] to work, but 99% of them are designed in a way in which they are physically incapable of working... why?
Maybe Scout Rifles will be better?
I was surprised to find that the barrel and chamber on most of the scout rifles, auto rifles, and pulse rifles seem to be aligned relatively well. At least, they don't appear as though they'll suffer a critical malfunction the first time you attempt to fire them as the MGs and Hand Cannons do. But then I realized that the chamber, magazine, and the thumb-hole in the frame all seem to line up perfectly... meaning that the only way the rounds are making it to the chamber from the magazine is through your thumb.
http://i.imgur.com/I04X3sc.png
Am I nitpicking? Yup! Does it bother me? Yup! If you're going to design weapons... you need to either do it right, or not at all. There's no reason why a few weapons should be plausible (all gameplay mechanics aside), while the rest are so outlandishly stupid as to be visibly impossible to anyone paying attention. Get it together, Bungie!
inb4 "space magic" means these all make sense...
EDIT: You know what? I was wrong. About all of it. I'm pretty sure it all basically just works like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGPIQ72-2Vg
EDIT2: June 1st. I must say... this thread has gone on far longer than I expected it to. some may have figured it out from my replies to them or others throughout, but I never really took this topic seriously. The above was mostly meant as satire, while also inviting discussion as to the visual aspect of how the weapons in Destiny work. It has been quite entertaining, for both myself, and I'm sure quite a few others. There have been some great exchanges with others who had a sense of humor, as well as some who attempted to form an intellectual counter-argument and participate in debates. Others were less than intelligent, but I still enjoyed the replies all the same.
To anyone reading this now with the intention of commenting along the lines of "it's just a game", or "calm down", or "you're an idiot", or "it's not real!" or whatever else...
http://i.imgur.com/U7Ghu2s.gifv
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Sci-fi?
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Isn't this a game based in the future? Do you think the weapons would like what they look like now in the future? No the answer is no.
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I demand bungie make their space magic more realistic.
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....and fusion rifles...man, i was at the range yesterday with my friends(who are all level 72 bloodelfs), and we were collectively laughing at the slightly higher than average range this game depicts...and accelerated coils..pfft!!! Bump this
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Yes because Destiny is already a realistic game
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It's a fantasy game which means...... .....fantasy guns...... Just saying
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Venus is a jungle, we can walk on Mercury without being incinerated, the game literally starts with your character WISING FWUM HIS GWAVE............and you're bothered by the weapons being unrealistic?
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Well, you forgot an important factor...[spoiler]its a [b]video game[/b][/spoiler]
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Lol scout rifle pic got me
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Edited by Nanovor4444: 5/26/2015 11:34:02 PMSpace magic [i]*drops mic*[/i]
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[i]One (bullet) does not simply pass through a god damn thumb[/i]
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Inb4 Americans have a lengthy discussion about guns. I see I'm too late.
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This guy has mastered thinking inside the box. Bungie should hire him so he can help them make destiny 2 the same as every other game
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It's a game
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Apparently in the Destiny universe there are 4 stages of matter liquid, solid, gas, and engram. I just [i]assume[/i] that the little purple/green boxes we pick up are bullets in engram form then depending on how those engrams load into the gun get programmed into different types of bullets. I know it doesn't make any real sense but it is a video game and I'm just putting it into video game logic.
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Even reading the comments, the barrel underneath still looks a little odd.
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Lol ok?
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Space magic. Your argument is invalid. ;)
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Chiappa Rhino 50DS 357 Magnum. Take a look at the design. It's almost like I've seen this design somewhere in game...
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Edited by BL4DE RUNNER UK: 5/26/2015 11:17:43 PMThread analysis: Pictures of Guns: Check Above average knowledge of firearms: Check Unresolved anger issues: Check Unable to differentiate reality from, say, a video game: Check Latent feelings of repressed homosexuality: Check Obsessively writing about things that have no relevance to real life: Check Superiority complex with Narcissistic traits: Check Thread analysed. Possible life outcomes: Serial Killer. Serial Killer Or Serial Killer.
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Suspension of disbelief me bruda!
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Actually there is a revolver commonly know as the rhino where he barrel sits at a lower position like that. And Bungie clearly states that the thing loaded into the hand cannons are not holding actual bullets or any projectiles but are power cores. They shoot energy
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As a firearms owner, who cares. Just don't say clip instead of mag or cylinder.
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I did notice this stuff. Nice write up. It looks Bungie really didn't give a -blam!- when they put this game together.
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Edited by aceebro: 5/26/2015 11:09:05 PMNone of them (save HMGs — no clue what's up there) actually use bullets, problem solved.
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I think the bigger problem is that they can fire in space