So, understandably Bungie nerfed Auto Rifles as the statistics proved they were the most over-used weapons in almost every activity. Now that they've castrated and killed Auto Rifles completley and buffed Pulse Rifles to top-tier and Hand Cannons to the most over-used genre of weapon, they might as well restore ARs to their former glory to compete with the newly buffed and overused Hand Cannons. If they re-buff ARs, will you not use Thorn anymore?
TLW: 2 Hipfire = Kill.
Thorn: 2 Headshot = Kill.
Red Death: 2 Headshot = Kill.
Scout Rifle: 3 Headshot = Kill. ( G-Demise )
Auto Rifles cannot compete with any of these weapons at close range.
If two players that were both pros shot at eachother with perfect aim from the same distance, all of the weapons I just mentioned would clearly win. Unless you get the first shot, no.
The first 3-10 shots in, you will lose any gunfight with an Auto Rifle against a skilled player.
EDIT: Bungie finally gave in. Not only are Thorn and the Last Word receiving a due nerf, but Auto Rifles are receiving the exact buff we decided on ( Or mostly )
To restore Auto Rifles to their prime damage but to keep the range nerfs in place to limit Auto Rifles to close-mid range encounters like Thorn and Last Word were originally intended to be.
Thank you all for consistently bumping this forum and I'm gladly looking forward to the Auto Rifle buff.
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Yeah make HARD LIGHT a decent weapon ,,, I used to use that and the Up for anything ,but they are no use now ,
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PvPers be like: Nerf this Nerf that Buff this No, buff that Remove this This is OP Muted.
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How come everyone of the auto rifles buff threads act like they nerfed them into the ground and that they need to be reworked it was 2.5% nerf not a 50% nerf. It just needs atleast a 1% or 1.5% buff and it should be fine.
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You can't rebuff all ARs to original stats they would be completely OP. Suros will go Back to being worst than tgorn
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No completely. Just to the level of pulse rifles. Then nerf hand cannons slightly to pulse rifle level. Add a lil power to scouts and call it a day.
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* red death needs 2 full bursts of headshots to kill.
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Bumping for Shadow Price
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Edited by MrSkeeZe: 5/5/2015 5:21:41 AMI kept my Shadow Price and Up for anything in hopes that they will one day be sufficient again, til then I'll use my strangers rifle because it's kind've like an auto rifle
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Please! I'm so exited for HoW and all the upcoming updates! Auto rifle buffs would only add even more to the experience :)
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Edited by Terible Speling: 5/5/2015 1:19:11 PMIncrease base damage by 15%. That is all
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I don't think they should be rebuffed completely, they were nerfed by, what, 2.5 or 2.7%? Bring that number down to 1 or 1.5% to bring them back up to pace, and you have my vote.
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Leave the range nerf in place, it makes guns like suros special, but give them they're damage back. Auto rifles should be close to mid range shredders, not ticklers.
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Bumping for my Monte Carlo. <3 I would love love love to see them be buffed in SOME way.
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I wouldn't buff them back to the way they were but give them equal damage to everything else
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They are clueless. Your posts dont matter lol
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I wish I kept my shadow price but up for anything has really grown on me. It's got third eye, field scout, reactive reload and ridiculous stability
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I wanna use my Up For Anything again :( or my Suros again. I love Auto Rifles and hand cannons, I tolerate scout rifles and I hate pulse rifles. It gets boring now because using an auto rifle is pointless so I just use a handcannon. It bores me that I can't switch it up
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Bumping for For The People
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Buff with headshot damage back first then fix each fire rate of AR so they are balanced
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Edited by KiIIShift: 5/5/2015 4:18:20 AMOnly buff them for PvE, I just wanna hear all the crucibabies cry about some more shit on the forums
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Still have my vendor shadow price. What a great weapon pre nerf
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Long live shadow price!
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Have shadow price, still wreck with it when I feel like it
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you forgot the Vex that was buffed for pvp insted of pve xD