So, understandably Bungie nerfed Auto Rifles as the statistics proved they were the most over-used weapons in almost every activity. Now that they've castrated and killed Auto Rifles completley and buffed Pulse Rifles to top-tier and Hand Cannons to the most over-used genre of weapon, they might as well restore ARs to their former glory to compete with the newly buffed and overused Hand Cannons. If they re-buff ARs, will you not use Thorn anymore?
TLW: 2 Hipfire = Kill.
Thorn: 2 Headshot = Kill.
Red Death: 2 Headshot = Kill.
Scout Rifle: 3 Headshot = Kill. ( G-Demise )
Auto Rifles cannot compete with any of these weapons at close range.
If two players that were both pros shot at eachother with perfect aim from the same distance, all of the weapons I just mentioned would clearly win. Unless you get the first shot, no.
The first 3-10 shots in, you will lose any gunfight with an Auto Rifle against a skilled player.
EDIT: Bungie finally gave in. Not only are Thorn and the Last Word receiving a due nerf, but Auto Rifles are receiving the exact buff we decided on ( Or mostly )
To restore Auto Rifles to their prime damage but to keep the range nerfs in place to limit Auto Rifles to close-mid range encounters like Thorn and Last Word were originally intended to be.
Thank you all for consistently bumping this forum and I'm gladly looking forward to the Auto Rifle buff.
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Agreed cant even us any auto rifle in both pve and pvp my shadow price is now lacking in both areas and don't get me started on low impact, high rate of fire auto rifles.
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If not in PVP for fcuk sake at least in PVE. This past nightfall I used Abyss Defiant for fun and that was the first time in months I've used an AR.
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Auto rifles arent supposed to compete on damage with other weapons they are fast firing spray and pray weapons. If you dont like the damage on them use something else, and to be fair I come across plenty of people in crucible who do just fine with AR's as they are.
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You all bitched autos out and now you want them back ? Wow
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Edited by loonigus: 5/5/2015 9:23:29 AMDamage buff and problem solved. Regarding the hand canons... Well its not a given thing for many ppl being effictive with them. Hand canons are the most skill beneficial weapon while the autorifle is still the main weapon of choice for the spray and pray scrub. Hand canons have close to zero aim assist unlike many AFs or MIDA for example. If you suck at aiming you wont come far with body shots in a 1 on 1 shootout or in a 1 on 2 situations. And btw WTF you mean with 2 headshot Red Death kill? It is utterly misleading. It is 2 BURSTS of headshots. A huge difference. I agree on the Hard Light and Necrochasm buff tho.
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Your not really Toland
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They need a partial buff to bring them in line with other guns. A full rebuff would just make the crucible a suros hell instead of a thorn/tlw hell. Lets actually try to balance the crucible, instead of continually making one dominating weapon class.
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ARs shouldn't return to their former glory, but they do need a buff. And seriously, what idiot would nerf HCs and PRs? That would make the whole community mad.
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I still work wonder with my Monte Carlo but I dare not play without my clan in iron banner because there are a lot of dick a cheap as moves people do during those things so you kinda need back up
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I don't see the, "buff auto rifles in to line with the other primaries, but not as much as they were before," option
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Now hear me out, I think nerfing HCs and PRs is actually what we need. Why do we have shields if it only takes 2 shots or bursts to kill? I remember in the beginning (before everyone had Suros) you actually had to battle and be accurate over a period of time, instead of dropping enemies so fast. I think ARs is in a good place if you bring HCs and PRs down just a slight bit.
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I think the HoW ones are a lot more solid so we should see a buff in their useage. They do need some tlc I miss using them 😕
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The stability and range thing shouldn't change, but they need their damage back
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I remember the first OP gun in Destiny was Shingen, aN AR with a ROF of 90%. Fires fast and not hard to land all headshots. Then the first AR nerf hits and it was way harder to get headshots with Shingen(or Hardlight). Then comes the time of low ROF ARs.
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Not all the way, some of the way
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Bump.
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I will be incredibly active on this forum and focus on it and only it for the next few days. I will do my best to get this heard.
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I'm down for that
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Edited by Zukeep: 5/5/2015 10:24:16 AMSuros sucks red death's dick for cash
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Edited by Kreis: 5/5/2015 2:18:39 AMTrying to get this trending. I fully believe that Bungie or rather DeeJ will talk with the Bungie dev team if he hears our reasoning. Bump and upvote if you agree.
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I think they simply need to un-do the last nerf, plain and simple.
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sadly pet my shadow price daily, cry every time. Would love to use it again.
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