I have a hard time believing that it's possible for anyone to complete this Nightfall without hiding under the stairs or using some other cheese that I'm not aware of.
If you did it, post here and explain how.
I probably won't believe you anyway, but if you really did it, I'm impressed!
edit: The actual question is, did you do it without any kind of cheese whatsoever.
So, if you hid under the stairs or on top of the lights or did anything else other than face him straight up, your answer should be "NO".
next edit: I changed the title so people might stop misunderstanding the point of the question.
I think the answer is about 50/50, cheese/no-cheese.
The answer to no-cheese seems to be Titan bubble, weapons of light and gyllenhoorns, lots and lots of gajyllenhoorns.
I've done it that way on normal, but this time there were a ton more (and tougher) enemies in the room before Valus spawned.
The shields on the psions were ridiculous.
Hiding under the stairs made it a problem to use the gyllenhoorn but hunter invisibility helped a bit.
I'll try it again next time w/ a Titan.
Good thread. Thanks!
final edit: I guess different people have different definitions of "cheese".
IMO, hiding in a spot where you are enclosed on all sides and the enemy can't get to you at all (as long as you stand in the right spot), but you can still hit them, is "cheesy", meaning "cheap".
NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
Hey, I think using a fire team full of gajigglyhorns is kinda cheesy too, but whatever works.
I'm not judging anyone for playing cheesy - I do it all the time.
I guess what I mean by cheese is a strategy (legit or not) that takes most/all of the intended challenge and risk out of a task.
Sometimes, especially when it's a strike I've done a million times, I don't care about the challenge, I just want to get it done, so I do it the cheesiest way possible.
Other times the challenge and difficulty are what makes it fun.
In my opinion, it's your game and you can play it however you'd like - as long as it doesn't get you banned or piss off the people you're playing with (too much).
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Lol killed valus in under 30 seconds
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stairs, gjallahorn, ldr, word of crota
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The shields on the Psions were a pain this week but for my fireteam I was the one who ran a maxed Void shotgun (The Chance from FWC in void with shot package). It took care of them in one shot
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I probably could with the right team but its just easier to cheese
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I ran around like a chicken with its was cut off trying to dodge -blam!-ing showers of never ending rockets, still trying to come to accept I was able to beat it without cheese
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Hiding under the stairs isnt a cheese, it is very possible for you to die by minigun fire under either set of stairs, and it is possible to die by cabal fire on the far right set as well So no, i didnt cheese. Brother jumped under the left stairs while i fought valus using my brother as an anchor for when i died
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You just sick back in the room, and them rotate to the other side of the room...... It's pretty f-in simple...
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Was I able to do it without cheesing? Sure, on two out of three runs with a couple of clan-mates easy-peesy. Would I cheese him? Sure. Third NF with pugs demanded it after the third try when he was down to 1/3 health.
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You guys that have a hard time doing nightfalls without cheesing truly suck at this game. Work as a damn team
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Just run around on the top platforms using various boxes for cover. As long as you are aware of the enemies around you, you should be fine. No need for cheese. That's just lame.
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there is no cheese
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I didn't even know you could cheese valus
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Its awful. Had to leave and rejoin five times for a single completion. Got Truth, though.
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I think the real question should be: American or Swiss?
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Yes, twice.
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How is it cheesing when it's available to perform, but no, titan bubbles and constantly moving around the map.
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if the game implemented an area for you to find safe cover while fighting them it's not cheese. Pushing a boss off a ledge is debatable cheese
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Gjallarhorn city bitch
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Completed 9 times already helping friends. Very simple. 3 people walk in and wait for the big guy. We all shoot 7 rockets. Eat a synth and shoot 7 more rockets. He dies after 42 rockets and the entire boss encounter lasts about 25 seconds. If your going to do a NF may as well make it a brute force speed run!
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-blam!-ing cheesers. I HATE YA`LL
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I tried to cheese the whole thing but I kept having to quit cheering to go revive the non-cheeser's like 10 times.
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How do you even cheese this strike? Seriously?
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No :( I was eating a sandwich
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Edited by cheeseking777: 4/9/2015 2:06:06 AMOf course I was able to, beat it in 20 or 30 mins. On the second run, my teammates continuously died off of spawn (left and rejoined) while I hid under a ramp... I left to rejoin and they died while I was in orbit. Not really much I could do about that... Edit: before anyone says anything about my name, I had this account way before destiny. I like edible cheese, not destiny cheese.
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All it takes is to be tactical with your class choice. Me andy buddies did it with a titan warlock and hunter. Hunter stealths into a spit with little to no enemies. Warlock as a sunsinger tries not to die. Titan will pop a bubble. (With saint 14) to get either blessing or weapons. Rockets and synthesis from there
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How is under the stairs a cheese? I would honestly like to know. I feel it is tactical. If taking cover in the most defensible spot available is a cheese, then everyone cheeses crucible at all times.