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Edited by denjoga:
4/9/2015 7:47:21 PM
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Were you able to do this week's N.F. w/out cheesing?
I have a hard time believing that it's possible for anyone to complete this Nightfall without hiding under the stairs or using some other cheese that I'm not aware of.
If you did it, post here and explain how.
I probably won't believe you anyway, but if you really did it, I'm impressed!
edit: The actual question is, did you do it without any kind of cheese whatsoever.
So, if you hid under the stairs or on top of the lights or did anything else other than face him straight up, your answer should be "NO".
next edit: I changed the title so people might stop misunderstanding the point of the question.
I think the answer is about 50/50, cheese/no-cheese.
The answer to no-cheese seems to be Titan bubble, weapons of light and gyllenhoorns, lots and lots of gajyllenhoorns.
I've done it that way on normal, but this time there were a ton more (and tougher) enemies in the room before Valus spawned.
The shields on the psions were ridiculous.
Hiding under the stairs made it a problem to use the gyllenhoorn but hunter invisibility helped a bit.
I'll try it again next time w/ a Titan.
Good thread. Thanks!
final edit: I guess different people have different definitions of "cheese".
IMO, hiding in a spot where you are enclosed on all sides and the enemy can't get to you at all (as long as you stand in the right spot), but you can still hit them, is "cheesy", meaning "cheap".
NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
Hey, I think using a fire team full of gajigglyhorns is kinda cheesy too, but whatever works.
I'm not judging anyone for playing cheesy - I do it all the time.
I guess what I mean by cheese is a strategy (legit or not) that takes most/all of the intended challenge and risk out of a task.
Sometimes, especially when it's a strike I've done a million times, I don't care about the challenge, I just want to get it done, so I do it the cheesiest way possible.
Other times the challenge and difficulty are what makes it fun.
In my opinion, it's your game and you can play it however you'd like - as long as it doesn't get you banned or piss off the people you're playing with (too much).
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Used cheese; still died... [spoiler]Took so long I died from boredom ;)[/spoiler]
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I did the nightfall alone and it sucked a$$
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What idiots like you need to understand is taking advantage of the terrain is legit strategy, not "cheesing" as you claim.
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I'll throw a cheese at you.
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Well I didn't glitch or go outside of the map or anything. I just used advantageous positions which were implemented in the game intentionally so no, I didn't cheese it.
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1 ReplyThere is no problem using any rocket launcher when hiding under the slope. It take care but is easily doable. Either go to the end where the two boxes are offset where you can jump out and jump-and-fire at Valus, or the more tricky hide under the slope right by the first box, crouch and aim at Valus and fire (making sure no mobs run in front of you....). Both methods are better with tracking rocket launchered for obvious reasons but it works with any launcher. Not cheesing, it's tactics. Bungie put the boxes there deliberately and this kind of thing is a trademark of their maps. Halo games were littered with just this kind of thing.
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The two guys I ran it with hid under the stairs but I was braver so I decided to hang from the chandelier. Funny thing, I didn't find any cheese up there.
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Why do it legit when all you get is $hit?
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Yes due to I see cheesing as cheating I'm not tricking the system by hiding behind boxes under the stairs lol
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*face palm*
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i used a badass wallbreach
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How is taking cover cheesing?
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1 run. 3 Gjallahorns.
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Lots of running and ice breaker
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Weapons of light in middle opposite side of room as soon as he comes out. 21 + quick gally missiles. Done quick no cheese.
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1 ReplyI beat it legit. Took some great cover under the steps and moved out at the right times
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Hiding under the stairs is not cheese. You don't leave the map or use any kind of glitch. You can still get killed under there too. If you're in the map you're not cheesing. If you're running around in the open dieing all the time you're not very smart.
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Invisibility+swordbreaker= git rekt psion
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Used the left side (as you look at it) and the top platform using that box as cover. WoC for the little guys, Ice-Breaker for the Boss and a Void HMG if shit got hairy. Only one guy of the fire-team hid like a bítch, and the encounter didn't really take that long
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tried multiple times last night with a friend and a random, couldn't kill him. Very challenging, I don't like this one.
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Ehhh I tried to since it was no burn but its hard trying to do it legit by yourself while the other two are under the stairs. There is just to many ads around and those damn shielded psions. So I just ended up harry pottering it.
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3 RepliesWhen you walk into the room I just stay on that side and when he walks over hide behind the crate.
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Walk in the room, Kill 2 legionaries Stand behind the metal shield and take some pot shots (cheese?) When he moves, swap sides and stand on top of the stairs that everyone goes under take more pot shots as valus' rockets can't hit you here (definitely cheese) Watch out for enemies spawning behind When valus swaps again go back behind first shield (cheesy cheese) Finally when valus follows you go to the right side of the room and stand behind cover opposite where everyone goes under the stairs and jump up and shoot over the crates (super cheese) Tl;Dr who gives a shit
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3 Friends with Gally + Weapons of light = profit Seriously though it took 20 seconds to finish RocketsMcDickface
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1 ReplyUsing the stairs, lamp, or black pipes is not cheese as you can be killed there with a moment of inattention. Going outside of the map with armor piercing snipers is cheese.
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1 ReplyYou can be killed up at the top or under both sets of stairs. No cheese there. That's just called being smart
