A few thousand years is small potatoes when we're talking about billions.

If a planes turbine was off balance slightly and you had knowledge of that would you get on it? My point is if it's off at all it's not a reliable tool

So based on that religion is better?

That's a matter of your own belief and not for me to tell you that it's right or wrong , but as far as I could tell this forum was meant to be a discussion when something is stated that something is fact when I have not seen said proof of fact only conjecture

If you actually researched it scientific journals and sources you would find your info. Religion websites aren't science sources

Evolution has a titanic Hole in the fact that it's theory not fact

A scientific theory is a proven scientific hypothesis, that is supported by [b]laws[/b], evidence, and observation.

I'm asking you for proof what have you read that I have not where where is your proven facts

You mean where is my proven evidence? Ask for an example. I'm not gonna reinvent the -blam!-ing wheel here.

The debate here was that it's fact

The theory itself has enough evidence to be a fact. The supporting evidence will continue to be filled out over time and improved on though.

No in fact it does not and that's a fact

Any reasoning for that outside of "because that's what I think"? And I'm waiting for your reply to the long as reply I made for ya.

And what one was that

Lol got it scientific theory = I could be right I could be wrong ..... Please prove me right !!!

I can't stand that you need me to show this to you. Its only shows that youre most likely going to attempt to discredit it with some kind of illogical fallacy. But here we go. Let's start with speciation. Speciation is the evolutionary process where new species arise. Speciation can take place in two general ways. A single species may change over time into a new form that is different enough to be considered a new species. This process is known as [b]anagenesis[/b]. More commonly, a species may become split into two groups that no longer share the same gene pool. This process is known as [b]cladogenesis[/b]. There are several ways in which anagenesis and cladogenesis may take place. In all cases, reproductive isolation occurs. [b]Sympatric[/b] speciation- this occurs when populations of a species that share the same habitat become reproductively isolated from each other. This speciation phenomenon most commonly occurs through polyploidy, in which an offspring or group of offspring will be produced with twice the normal number of chromosomes. Where a normal individual has two copies of each chromosome (diploidy), these offspring may have four copies (tetraploidy). A tetraploid individual cannot mate with a diploid individual, creating reproductive isolation. Sympatric speciation is rare. It occurs more often among plants than animals, since it is so much easier for plants to self-fertilize than it is for animals.  [b]Allopatric[/b] speciation- this is the most common form of speciation, it occurs when populations of a species become geographically isolated. When populations become separated, gene flow between them ceases. Over time, the populations may become genetically different in response to the natural selection imposed by their different environments. If the populations are relatively small, they may experience a founder effect: the populations may have contained different allelic frequencies when they were separated. Selection and genetic drift will act differently on these two different genetic backgrounds, creating genetic differences between the two new species. [b]Parapatric[/b]speciation- this is extremely rare. It occurs when populations are separated not by a geographical barrier, such as a body of water, but by an extreme change in habitat. While populations in these areas may interbreed, they often develop distinct characteristics and lifestyles. Reproductive isolation in these cases is not geographic but rather temporal or behavioral. For example, plants that live on boundaries between very distinct climates may flower at different times in response to their different environments, making them unable to interbreed. So, as for evidence to support evolution. One type of evidence for evolution (evidence that organisms are related, descended from a few common ancestors, and change to adapt to their environments) is that organisms are similar to each other, but not exactly the same. Similar organisms have differences that help them adapt to their environments. The skeletal structures of [url=http://kozmopolitaydinlar.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/evidence_for_evolution_1.gif]vertebrates[/url] for example. The fossil record. There are some well documented transitions of one species to another. [url=http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_03] The evolution of whales for example[/url], as well as [url=http://palaeo.gly.bris.ac.uk/communication/boulton/evolution.html]the time of the dinosaurs[/url]. The fossil record itself shows a steady progression of life that flows very logically from the life forms of one time period/geographic area to the next. Its also important to remember, the fact that some transitional fossils are not preserved does not disprove evolution. Evolutionary biologists do not expect that all transitional forms will be found and realize that many species leave no fossils at all. Lots of organisms don't fossilize well and the environmental conditions for forming good fossils are not that common. So, science actually predicts that for many evolutionary changes there will be gaps in the record. I can go into DNA if need be. But this is long enough as it is.

Well your right here's your fallacy if you will from what I read in your answer was that most of these let call them what they really are hypothesis is that a plant adapted to its climate it did not be come something entirely different it was still a plant if evolution were correct this world would look like cloudy with a chance of meatballs as far as fossil records I could not help but laugh what they are saying is we have no record but guys take our word for it happened

I don't even know what your saying about plants. And no, for the fossil record they are saying we have literal and metaphorical mountains of evidence. However, the fossil record will never be perfect.

Well if natural selection is the answer as to why we are here then hitler was right and should have been left alone as he was a well known proponent of natural selection super race if you will so if our soul purpose on earth is to be the strongest species wouldn't it be correct to eliminate the competition I like to believe we have another purpose for us not just a blip for a second

I have and will continue to read and enjoy scientific journals I know way more than you may think no I do not have a degree but as I have seen you don't need a degree to use intellect and common sense to notice that if something is flawed not to take it as the alls all of wisdom