If you think about it the 2.5% autorifle damage nerf is like missing one shot per every 40 bullets.
you would be better served improving your aim rather than coming here to cry and whine.
And if youre complaining about the pve side you just suck cause pve is easy.
that is all... nerf is here to stay and im happy :P
Edit: a lot of people saying it difference is unnoticeable and relatively insignificant... not surprising it just makes all the complainers look like a bunch of fools
Edit: also a lot of people posting that the damage nerf is more significant than 2.5%.. the answer is no thats the range nerf making your AR less effective (less damage) at longer ranges
OH YEAH AND THIS IS ME LICKING UP YOUR TEARS: http://youtu.be/pbIR51_J_qY
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Edited by Dic3man: 2/27/2015 7:28:59 AMSuros got a 14% nerf thats quite alot. Shotguns are fun to use now and also pulse rifles are good so I am ok with the patch.
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Everything is basically even now, I'm okay with that tbh
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Problem is ALL auto rifles got lumped in. You could justify Suros (not necessary but I could see the argument) but Hard Light?!? The last thing that gun needed was a nerf.
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cause these scrubs can't math. an example: an AR that does 100 per critical loses 2.5 DMG per shot making it 98 so what's the BFD.
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Mobile vault management. Amen to this. 90% of the time I use scouts so the balance didn't affect me really.
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No it's more than 2.5% for AR's like V8 and Suros. Before you make a brown-nose-Bungie-is-love-post get your facts correct.
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Edited by Toddzilla1970: 2/27/2015 12:03:11 AMI want to make a little comment about nerfing anything in Crucible (therefore affecting PVE). Does anyone think gladiators back in the day bitched... "Wahhh, my dagger is dull and rusty compared to that guy in badass armor with a shiny broadsword.... i cant take on these other gladiators. Emperor? Give them the same dagger I have or its not fair! Wahhh"Believe me, I have the most gawdaweful drop luck in this game. guess what? I dont play crucible til I have gear to make it. i dont piss and moan. Bungie? Quit catering to Crucible and nerfin stuff. Its gladiator combat meant to test the best. That said, players such as myself are tired of the nerfin of our stuff affecting PVE. Its hard enough to get as is.
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Lolol says a scub: -wearing Cryptographic shader -zero Fangs or WoC's Ever shoot a level 33 hallow knight in the face?
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Complainer complaining about people complaining. Everyone's a loser on this thread.
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You lick tears? That's just weird. Do you have a man dressed in drag that watches you play too? Or perhaps a Mr. Gimp done up in a clad leather domination suit that you have on a chains in a box for your anal pounding pleasures? #zedisdead
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No complaints here you can still Snipe with the Thorn
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Suros is seeing a 13.5% nerf at close range. Learn to math.
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I like the adjustments. And I knocked out all of my weeklies without coordinating with friends. Also no need to redo a weekly because my friends need the help. Got side tracked, I agree, the auto rifles damage is nearly irrelevant with the adjustment but does seem to have more than 2.5%. Tests were done and it seems inconsistent. But overall, I hoped the adjustments would prevent the complaints.
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Vanquisher got over 30% nerf on crits. Tested point blank. Test it yourself. I use scout thank god but i liked playing around with my vanquisher sometimes. Oh well, in the vault it goes.
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331 ARs used to do 230 on lvl 33 Knights but now do 211, nbd
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Edited by organicsnake: 2/26/2015 6:27:32 PMI love both pve and pvp and an avid ar user I'm not complaining I'm adapting because I have no coice but I must say I was in a close range fire fight with the do gooder and I got owned by bad juju and I can say ar are the new pulse rifles pre patch. Now the 4th horseman was already a poor shotgun but I liked it unlike others but now it's atrocious no longer usable.i think they took the patch to far. Just saying
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Well I for one am also happy with the changes. I tend to be a mid to close range PVP player anyways and this gives me a bit of a chance. Before the changes pvp was really all about sniping and super auto rifles (coughsuroscough) that can shoot you from halfway across the map. I know some of you are upset because you had an advantage before and don't now but as one of the not so good players it's really nice to have a chance to actually play rather than be spawn camped every ten seconds. Personally I want to play pvp to improve my skills and not be a bullet sponge. I am sure some of the super good pvp players will adjust to this very quickly.
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Opinion smells like an asshole...
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I Think People Just Hate The Fact That They Can't Use Them To Cross Map Anymore ;)
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Seriously my game is unaffected with Suros. I never tried to use it like a scout rifle, apparently this was possible and is stupid as hell. I don't know how many times I was sniped by a Thorn which is just silly. However, it is still a three shot weapon at mid range. Why do you need to snipe with hand cannons? It just doesn't make sense to me.
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If you used ARs in PvE, you suck anyway...I bet all the whiners are people who thibk the Necrochasm is awesone and spent Strange Coins on No Land Beyond
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Do your own research before you post this shit on the forums. ARs were hit hard and this is extremely apparent in PvE. If you don't have time to do your own planetdestiny already has a video covering the effects of the update, I suggest anyone that's curious about the actual numbers to watch.
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Edited by botbot1973: 2/26/2015 2:36:48 PMGo away watch some you tube videos and come back and apologies for your noob statement. The nerf is actually far greater. The issue here is why did they lie about a 2.5 nerf when it was far greater. Do you enjoy being lied to? http://youtu.be/NRjo_epRqDg
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Don't see any hard mode Crota kills on that list. Seems odd for such an easy game. Go ahead and look my stats up - terrible Crucible player. PvE mostly, and I'm fine with that. Just don't understand why the PvP experience supersedes PvE in priority (update). Posts like yours are pretty much the poster child for PvP attitude.
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Edited by Stetson: 2/26/2015 5:58:18 PMActually, many of the AR's took up to a -14% nerf. The math was done by planet destiny. Bungie flat-out lied, and you're drinking the Kool Aid. Why don't PvP cronies like yourself go play Halo MCC? The gind to randomly obtain gear through the PvE core component of Destiny is already tedious enough. Now we have to switch to weapons we don't prefer because of the minority player demographic. Sounds like this game is reflecting America as-a-whole.
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Actually the 2.5% is probably under valued to what the REAL Nerf was. All my AR's are crap now......Yes...I can aim....lol